[GTALUG] Fedora Netinstall
Bob Jonkman
bjonkman at sobac.com
Sun Feb 11 00:08:02 EST 2018
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Hugh wrote:
> What's the processor?
I'll have to check. It's possible the two P200s have different CPUs,
since there are other differences. And I may be remembering the speed
of the dead 64-bit laptop, not the 32-bit laptop.
> | But now that some packages are no longer | available in 32-bit
> architecture (hello, Chrome!) it may be necessary | to buy a new
> laptop.
>
> Switch to Firefox? What other programs are missing?
I'm already using IceCat, so the browser isn't my problem. But the
lack of 32-bit Chrome is the thin edge of the wedge. There will be
other packages that will no longer be distributed for 32-bit
architecture. Then what?
But I guess we're not using 8-bit and 16-bit CPUs any more either.
> If you've got the notebook, why not use it until it dies
Yup. That's how I treat all my computers. And then take the useful
parts and frankenstein them into other computers.
- --Bob.
On 2018-02-10 09:46 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> | From: Bob Jonkman via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
>
> | I have a Toshiba Satellite P200 laptop, 3 GHz dual-core CPU, 2
> GBytes | RAM, 200 GByte HD, 4 USB ports, and, most wonderful of
> all, a 1440x900 | px 17" screen.
>
> What's the processor? I read a review of a P200 that had a Core
> Duo T2350 processor running at 1.867GHz. The fastest Core Duo T
> series runs at 2.33GHz.
>
> | But now that some packages are no longer | available in 32-bit
> architecture (hello, Chrome!) it may be necessary | to buy a new
> laptop.
>
> Switch to Firefox? What other programs are missing?
>
> | Are there any down sides to using a 32-bit machine as a web- or
> mail | server? I'm thinking low power consumption, &c. make that
> an | attractive alternate use.
>
> Power consumption isn't that low on your notebook. There have
> been some efficiency advances since 2006 when the Core Duo T series
> were introduced.
>
> I'm typing this on a three year old netbook with a processor that
> is roughly as powerful (but with modern features) and takes a lot
> less power (7.5W vs 31W + GPU power).
>
> But that's a minor point. If you've got the notebook, why not use
> it until it dies or something better comes along?
=====
> Hugh wrote:>> I would think that most 32-bit only laptops are not
> really useful
>> any longer.
>
> I have a Toshiba Satellite P200 laptop, 3 GHz dual-core CPU, 2
> GBytes RAM, 200 GByte HD, 4 USB ports, and, most wonderful of all,
> a 1440x900 px 17" screen.
>
> I was disappointed to learn about a week ago when installing
> Debian Testing that it only has a 32-bit CPU. I have another P200
> that no longer boots, and I was sure it had a 64-bit CPU. That one
> also had Bluetooth and 6 USB ports, so it was likely a higher
> sub-model of the P200.
>
> Such a machine is perfectly adequate for web surfing, e-mail
> reading, maintaining other people's websites, and ssh-ing into
> whatever remote machine I'm SysAdminning. But now that some
> packages are no longer available in 32-bit architecture (hello,
> Chrome!) it may be necessary to buy a new laptop.
>
> Are there any down sides to using a 32-bit machine as a web- or
> mail server? I'm thinking low power consumption, &c. make that an
> attractive alternate use.
>
>
> Howard wrote:
>> Has anyone else out there played with this? (Netinstall)
>
> Yes, very successfully. I generally prefer doing the netinstall.
> Using an .iso to install takes time to copy all the OS files and
> packages to the computer, and, unless the .iso is a very recent
> release, almost everything you just installed has to be replaced
> with the first upgrade you make. So, might as well do the
> netinstall and get all the current stuff the first time.
>
>
> --Bob.
>
>
> On 2018-02-10 10:49 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From:
> Howard Gibson via talk <talk at gtalug.org>
>>
>> | I have just upgraded my 32-bit laptop to Fedora 27. The
>> install DVD | is no longer available for 32-bit. I had to do
>> a Netinstall.
>>
>> Interesting. What laptop is it? I would think that most 32-bit
>> only laptops are not really useful any longer.
>
>> On 2018-02-09 10:27 PM, Howard Gibson via talk wrote:
>>> I have just upgraded my 32-bit laptop to Fedora 27. The
>>> install DVD is no longer available for 32-bit. I had to do a
>>> Netinstall. Netinstall is poorly documented, but the default
>>> settings all work, I was able to select the software I wanted,
>>> and it has all worked very well. I think I actually prefer
>>> Netinstall to the DVD.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else out there played with this?
>>>
>>> I have not yet updated my website notes.
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