[GTALUG] Question

[o1bigtenor]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:00 PM, CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk
<talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
> On 12/01/17 08:16 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Am trying to find (for need in the not to distant future) some of what
>> is normally called 'accounting' software (its really record keeping
>> software but that's a different argument!).
>>
>> What are you using that is, or could be, multi-user and has room for
>> some complexity?
>> (I am presently using 10 digit account numbers to get the granularity I
>> want.)
>
>
> Wave <https://www.waveapps.com/> is another Toronto-based web accounting
> software provider. I know the people behind it and they know what they're
> doing. I would trust their security more than the security on the average
> small business network. As for the "What happens to my data if they go out
> of business?" question, I'd check with the vendor to find out how to export
> data and do it on a regular basis.
>
> One of the criterion to what you should be using is to find out if your
> accountant is familiar with what you're using. If they are not, which is
> more important to you, your accountant or the software you use?

Ah yes - - - the 'wonderful' accountant.

Well, I dropped using an accountant when I went to a major firm and gave
them my docs (which were laid out by GIFI codes) so only needed transferring
to whatever they were using and explained that I saw three scenarios. That was
to a junior member. About 2 weeks later I arrived for my appointment and was
now told that due to the complexity of my stuff (one business, farming and a
personal return) a senior member of the firm was required. He told me
that I had
3 different scenarios to consider (my bill had also gone up by 250%). Told
that (expletives deleted) that what he had told me was almost exactly what
I had told the junior member I had started with. Told him as he didn't provide
any value for fees that I thought that I didn't really need his services.
Paid the useless sucker and left.

Didn't use another until a bank forced me to use an accountancy firm (which
made an error (you are responsible for any errors even if someone else makes
them on your behalf you know)). So now I'm much more likely to ask them if they
would prefer to deal with Enron or me (Enron was managed by accountants
and lawyers!) and leave.
Have found a few other things that I couldn't get advice on from them so now
I have a few trusted advisors - - - - but NO accountant!

Revenue Canada has reams of documents available. Often answer complex
questions too. Got one senior advisor to change some stuff by using logic
- - - that sort of surprised me. Hadn't run into too many thinking bureaucratic
types before!

YMMV

Dee