[GTALUG] processor progress sure has slowed down
Lennart Sorensen
lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Mon Jan 9 10:53:05 EST 2017
On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 08:31:57PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> I got an ad from NCIX for systems with Intel's new Kaby Lake processors.
> Here's the headline:
>
> UP TO
> [LARGER FONT] 28% BETTER PERFORMANCE* [/LARGER FONT]
> versus a 3-year-old-desktop
>
> The footnote shows that a i7-7700K processor system was being compared
> with a i7-4770K. Some of the improvement would be in DDR4 vs DDR3 and so
> on. OS and video card were the same. The power requirement of the CPU
> went up slightly.
>
> You'd normally expect a 7xxx processor to be compared with a 6xxx
> procecessor, but they've reached back an extra two generations to show
> even a modest 28% improvement.
Well at the same clock the 7xxx and 6xxx are apparently the same speed
in almost all cases. 7xxx is a bit more power efficient though, and
can hence overclock a bit more.
But yes, not a big leap this time at all. There is a new chipset
generation to go with it, although apparently some of the existing 100
series boards can already support the new chip at least with a bios update.
> There are useful features added to the processors since the Haswell
> generation. Like a working TSX-NI: Haswell had it, with bugs, so Intel
> suppressed it with a microcode update. Not completely fair since the K
> models never had it.
>
> Intel has put a lot of extra transistors into on-chip video, something
> useful at least sometimes. Perhaps this shows where Intel feels it needs
> to compete -- AMD has a better on-chip GPU but an uncompetitive CPU. One
> can only hope that AMD's Zen/Ryzen lives up to AMD's talk.
Well at least on some models they are improving graphics, but I am not
sure that is the case on all models.
I still have a happy Core2 Q6600 running, which was released 10 years
ago, and I would not consider it a slow machine. Sure it doesn't match
my i7-3960X machine, but that would not be a fair comparison anyhow.
--
Len Sorensen
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