[GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

o1bigtenor o1bigtenor at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 10:47:24 EDT 2016


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Alvin Starr via talk <talk at gtalug.org> wrote:
> On 09/29/2016 11:52 PM, Peter King via talk wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
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>
> Not sure why people have a hate on for systemd.
> It is a pain to learn a new way to manage your systems but it solves a
> number of problems and gets systems into a usable state faster in the face
> of startup problems.
> I curse systemd on a daily basis because my fingers know init but quite
> frankly having to wait 30 minutes for a system to boot up with init because
> some network connections need to time out is a major pain when its a
> critical system and the phones are all lit up.
> systemd removes the single threaded-ness of init and also provides a much
> better mechanism for dependency resolution.
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Well - - - I can tell you why I find systemd a royal PITA. Systemd wants to be
everything to everybody. That's astronomically difficult to do and what is in
place today doesn't work half as well as it purports to. I have run
into some of
the issues which have resulted in a lot of hair pulling (hard when
there's little
left) in the process of resolving issues.

I think that the original *nix thinking of doing one thing (at a time)
and doing
it well or better is my preferred solution. Part of the problem is
that, even in
linux, there are too many silos being built and not enough communication.

I wonder if that is because most of the code writers are not really human
communicators rather they are far better machine communicators?
What say you?

Dee


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