[GTALUG] Seeking help with a unique Linux project?

Tue Dec 15 01:11:00 UTC 2015

Hello Blaise,
Thanks so very much in advance for the wisdom I feel sure you can provide.
I honestly admit  to being a touch of a singer snob who imagines one can 
only perform  live with well other live people smiles.
So when Bob wrote of your creating, I confess I got rather curious as 
well.
As for command line music making  tools, there are actually rather a few 
I  am  learning.  I am compiling a list with links, since I do not know 
yet 
your distribution of preference, or exactly how you work.
Articulating my desires musically may make more sense than the ssh telnet 
aspect truth be told.
In all honesty however, I cannot say with hands on firmness that I can 
drive the car where I wish to go.
I was more of a singer / arranger than a songwriter until the past few 
years.  Now I have all this music I desire moving from the studio in my 
head and heart  onto sheet music, into performing form, as I am sure you 
can understand.
  Since I am writing full arrangements, all the parts with my lyrics, I want 
to  play all of the parts, piano, strings, guitar etc.,  that are in my 
head and then
  get the completed work into sheet certainly both audio and sheet 
possibly.
How I imagine doing this, is with a quality   piano / keyboard that also 
has several additional instrument options to simulate sound wise for 
composition only for now at least, the other instrument's for which I am 
writing.
<Still awake?>
Now, this is where my visual memory, blended with my lack of first hand 
Linux  experience starts to get a bit...well hopeful.
I imagine connecting said piano / keyboard  to the m-audio audiophile 2496 
sound card I have in mind,  using any one of the dozen or so tools for the 
command line I am finding  are included in Debian, writing each part one 
at a time, putting the piece together, and transferring the completed work 
to a composing  package, you referenced Lillypoind,  which is 
terrific, but  there are a couple 
more.
I am hunting the instrument along with the talent for the Linux side of my 
desire.
The older the better in a way, I tend to be a buttons kind of girl, not a 
touch  screen one.
Granted I know some keyboards have  multi-track sequencers built in. 
Letting me <I think?  compose entirely on said keyboard and transfer the 
finished product...strong emphasis on the  I think.
There may be another way that I have not considered, I mean besides the 
traditional way  of doing the recording, I am a radio producer too, so have 
pro tools, a mac  a control surface etc. etc.
Still I would rather use Linux because I know the composition  programs 
exist,  that i may be able to script in Linux some of what I need...not me, 
but tap into some sources for this.  There is no real program for 
composition  mac wise, certainly not going back to the edition I am using 
to run my 
pro 
tools setup.
The ssh-telnet aspect simply lets me treat the Linux box like a server, 
running the commands  from  my main computer where I am already 
comfortable, both with  my speech synthesizer,  and in a small way  with 
the command line based on my daily use of a comparative Linux shell.
Oh that reminds me, I spoke of issues with speech in more  current Linux 
Kernels.  This is because the ability to use a hardware source for speech 
no longer exists in the new ones, like in Jessie.  Only software speech 
which for me is out of the question.
One can compile the new distribution with the older Kennel, but that. is. 
way!!! beyond me laughs.
Is all this making more sense?
Will have those programs for you tomorrow.
Thanks for joining the adventure!
I likewise thank you Bob for inviting Blaise to the party.
Kare

On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Blaise Alleyne wrote:

> Hi Karen,
>
> I don't have very much experience with command line tools for music in
> GNU/Linux, barring some pretty simple uses (encoding, monitoring MIDI notes,
> making minor edits to sheet music typeset in Lilypond generated by Rosegarden).
> But I have taken a head-first dive into audio production in GNU/Linux over the
> past few years, and I use it for live performance and for composition and home
> recording. I'd also be personally interested in at least some command line tools
> for doing some of the things I currently do in GUIs.
>
> I don't think I fully understand what you're trying to do (both musically, or
> with the SSH component), but hopefully I can be of some assistance. Very curious
> to learn more about what you're hoping to do in case I can help!
>
> Regards,
> Blaise
>
> ps thanks for pinging me, Bob!
>
>
> On 11/12/15 06:38 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Wow that must have been amazing.  The Linux audio list at yahoo groups is full
>> of people mostly in Europe who use command line Linux tools for their music
>> work, some of them are authors of packages included.
>> Still it would be fun to witness it firsthand.
>> Kare
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>>
>> At Software Freedom Day we had a great presentation on using Free
>> Software for Musical Performance by Blaise Alleyne. He was using
>> graphical tools for his performance, but has the Music-On-Linux part
>> covered. He may have expertise in command-line musical performance
>> tools too. I'll ping him with this message.
>>
>> I wonder what it would take to convince Blaise to haul his studio
>> equipment up to the room at Ryerson to do his presentation for
>> GTALUG... :)
>>
>> --Bob.
>>
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>> On 10/12/15 07:17 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>> greetings everyone, My name is Karen.  I have only recently found
>>>>> this LUG, and joined the talk list. I am a professional singer/
>>>>> songwriter and media producer with a unique Linux goal. I wish to
>>>>> make use of the varied console or command line based tools in Linux
>>>>> for my composition work, and if possible for accessing media
>>>>> materials too. I use adaptive technology, which is part of why my
>>>>> desire is to ssh telnet into my Linux box rather than work with it
>>>>> directly. I tend to prefer more traditional tools.  for example one
>>>>> sound card in this box will be an m-audio audiofile 2496
>>>>> production card to which I will be attaching my music keyboard. In
>>>>> any case while I have some of the tools I require, and firm
>>>>> knowledge that my goals are possible. I have not, at least not
>>>>> until now, found a Linux users group in Toronto where I can get the
>>>>> extra wisdom required. I am very used to Linux and UNIX based shell
>>>>> structures. I am using one at this moment  based in freedsb, to
>>>>> draft my email, and use another based in Ubuntu for my nonprofit
>>>>> media newsroom's hosting account. Such is also part of why I want
>>>>> to start with a comparative way to use my Linux box.  I would
>>>>> rather begin with a foundation where I can make use of and learn
>>>>> more right away, than fail to use the Linux box well at all. Let me
>>>>> be sure  my post is suitable before both asking and answering
>>>>> questions. Thanks in advance, Karen
>>>>>
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