[GTALUG] Unbootability
John Moniz
john.moniz at sympatico.ca
Tue Oct 21 22:17:48 UTC 2014
On 10/21/2014 10:49 AM, Peter King wrote:
> I'm trying to revive an old computer.
>
> The CPU is an Athlon XP 2500, on an Asus A7X87 motherboard, with 3GB
> of RAM. The internal connections are all PATA. It has both USB ports
> and a DVDRW drive installed. Up until a month or so ago, it ran as
> well as an old computer could, with Gentoo installed. Then a hard disc
> went bad, and that's when the fun began.
>
> The BIOS, which dates from 2004, wouldn't let me boot from a USB stick
> (the only options are USB-FDD and USB-ZIP). So I started burning boot
> CDs, all of which fail: Gentoo current install disc; SysRescue CD; the
> Debian 7.0 live install disc; Archliinx; and OpenBSD. As I said, they
> all fail, quite early on in the process: the BIOS tells me "ATAPI CDROM:
> No Emulation" and then starts loading each disc, but fails one way or
> another, never getting through a kernel load as far as I can tell (which
> isn't very far). I have swapped the DVDRW drive out for another one,
> with no change in results; I have changed the PATA cable connected to
> the DVDRW twice, also with no change in results. MemTest seems quite
> happy with the installed RAM.
>
> The boot failures are inconsistent, but, for what it's worth, here is
> how they each fail:
>
> (1) Gentoo install disc: Gets as far as starting to load the kernel when
> the screen goes black. Sometimes that triggers a BIOS reboot, but at
> other times it just sits there. Tried several combinations of kernel
> modules: nofb, noacpi, no-hardware-detection, and so on, without any
> making a difference.
>
> (2) Sysrecue CD: Latest version simply segfaults after the "ISOLinux"
> declaration.
>
> (3) Debian 7.0 live install disc: Gets to the menu of choices, and will
> usually allow me to make a choice; picking "Install" in any form
> causes a black screen followed by a reboot. Under the "Advanced"
> menu I can run MemTest, though.
>
> (4) Archlinux install disc: Once I got to the menu, with the motherboard
> wildly beeping in the background, but wasn't able to select any of
> the choices. Every other time it just triggers a reboot.
>
> (5) OpenBSD 5.6 install disc: Starts loading the kernel but freezes after
> printing the UC copyright notice.
>
> Google turns up lots of suggestions for the "no emulation" message,
> most of which are either "switch the cable" or "change the drive", both
> of which I've tried, as noted.
>
> The next thing I'll try is to remove one hard disc, install it in some
> other functional computer, and install a bootable Gentoo (or whatever)
> on it there, then reinstalling the disc on the old computer to see if
> it will boot from it. I'm happy (enough) to do that, but I'm bothered
> by the brick wall I've hit in trying to do something ordinary, namely
> to boot from a CDR. Any ideas?
>
If you think the MB might be the problem, one thing I would try is to
remove the MB from the case, place it on a non-conductive material,
reconnect all cables and try again.
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