[GTALUG] Crypto Question: Where do you get your entropy

Mauro Souza thoriumbr at gmail.com
Fri Nov 14 00:55:34 UTC 2014


If you guys don't mind soldering a lot, there's a hardware RNG here:
http://hackaday.com/2014/10/31/dual-mode-avalanche-and-rf-random-number-generator/

It says it can generate ~350kbits per second of entropy... I don't know if
it's enough for you.

Mauro
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2014-11-12 14:27 GMT-02:00 Stewart Russell <scruss at gmail.com>:

>
> On Nov 12, 2014 10:52 AM, "Christopher Browne" <cbbrowne at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.entropykey.co.uk/tech/
>
> Unfortunately, these are no longer available. If you check their shop,
> they say that the wait time is effectively indefinite.
>
> It looks well designed, but it all depends how paranoid you need to be.
> Certain ARM Cortex microcontrollers have thermal hardware RNGs built in.
> They can pump out a stream of noise at a huge rate.
>
> The Raspberry Pi's SoC has one too. It's not super-fast and closed, so you
> decide if it works for you. Most other artisanal solutions (Geiger counter
> timing, clock skew on microcontrollers, detuned radios, avalanche noise,
> intentionally mis-wired comparators) don't produce the volume of entropy
> you need. They're also open to tampering, and most folks don't have the
> knowledge to know what to look for in designing such a thing. I certainly
> know I don't ...
>
> I haven't checked if you still have to build a custom kernel to get RdRand
> support on x86. Given past messes over ssh entropy holes, the lack of
> support for RdRand because it might be tainted by the NSA was a pot/kettle
> situation.
>
> Cheers
> Stewart
>
>
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