OT: changing youtube video
Christopher Browne
cbbrowne-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Wed Jan 23 22:51:19 UTC 2013
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:51 PM, James Knott <james.knott-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Christopher Browne wrote:
>>
>> Their group is a tiny microcosm; I think it would be an error to tie the
>> (fairly rare, though commonly well-publicized) cases where their folk
>> reject medical treatment with broader religious communities that have
>> extremely different behaviours.
>
> Such as all those who go to Lourdes, expecting a cure? Carl Sagan looked at
> the number of "miracles" recognized by the Catholic church and found they
> were lower than the natural remission rate for the various diseases. He
> also pointed out that you were more likely to die traveling to or from
> Lourdes, than to be cured. There are many other examples, where religious
> belief causes people to forgo proper medical care.
Yes, I think it would be an error to consider those the same thing.
There are approximately a billion Catholics, and "going to Lourdes, a
place in France with population 15K to get healed" which can only conceivably
be done by some miniscule portion of their supplicants seems not remotely
the same thing as a declared doctrine being to reject sickness as an illusion,
and doctoring as an illusory solution to the illusory sickness.
I'm not trying to defend the Catholics; rather, the CS folk seem quite a few
standard deviations crazier.
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