Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin , usr/sbin split

Stephen Gordon stephen.a.gordon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Thu Feb 2 21:36:22 UTC 2012


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 12:06:05PM -0500, William Muriithi wrote
>> Walter
>> > ?The sad part is that Redhat (the people behind Fedora) also employ the
>> > lead developers for udev, and they're trying to make udev unuseable
>> > without /usr being present.
>>
>> I really disagree this has anything to do with RedHat.  Redhat happen
>> to just employ the majority of the kernel developer which is something
>> to be glad about, not something to whine about. Really, if most of the
>> other big vendors like google could invest on the kernel like Redhat,
>> Linux would be even better
>>
>> The consequence of having most of the kernel dev as RedHat employees
>> is that people start feeling like Redhat control how the kernel
>> development evolve.  This can not be correct, most of the kernel
>> developers are top rate C programmers and can not be controlled like a
>> college school kids. So, despite Redhat being their employer, how udev
>> development evolve has more to do with the kernel developers taste
>> than Redhat influence.  Which mean, it would not matter if they were
>> employed by Google or IBM for that matter.
>
>  In that case, why is the Fedora Project bragging about the specific
> benefits to Fedora?  See...
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Benefit_to_Fedora

That is a requirement of the Features process for Fedora. Every
Feature page has that section and if you can't list some benefits then
it's highly unlike that feature will get accepted. It could just as
easily say 'Benefits to GNU/Linux', particularly given the reasons a
Feature is desirable for Fedora are exactly the same reasons they are
desirable for other distributions.

Steve

>  The main reason for for the bad feelings towards Redhat/Fedora is that
> overhead for stuff that benefits Redhat/Fedora could be forced on other
> distros.  If Fedora wants to use systemd, and it doesn't affect Gentoo,
> fine, I have no problems with that.  But when they make changes to basic
> system services like udevd that would force *ALL* distros to re-organize
> disk drives, that's when the complaints from everybody else starts.  If
> Fedora had gone with their own service/tool/add-on that was launched by
> udevd early on and did the Fedora thing, none of this animosity would've
> happened.
>
>
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