Updates: grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence
Tyler Aviss
tjaviss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Thu Oct 20 17:26:14 UTC 2011
My personal peeve is when I step away from a windows 7 machine for a bit,
and come back to find it rebooted due to a background update.
More annoying is when I'm in a game and windows yanks me out to say "windows
needs to reboot in order to apply an update" ... Grrrr
On Oct 20, 2011 10:20 AM, "D. Hugh Redelmeier" <hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Every once in a while, I run MS Windows. Usually just to do updates.
> Some kind of compulsion like obsessive hand washing.
>
> I rebooted my Fedora 15 desktop machine because of Fedora updates, so I
> took the opportunity to update the Vista that came with the machine.
>
> Infelicities that I remember:
>
> - Microsoft updates are slow and require a reboot
>
> - upon reboot, more updates appear. Why? No explanation given (I
> could invent some reasons). They too require a reboot.
>
> - one of the updates prompts for permission to install (ie9, I think).
> But it puts the prompt UNDER the Windows Update window so I let the
> machine sit there invisibly waiting for me for quite some time until
> I moved the Windows Update window and could see it. DUMB.
>
> - several other non-Microsoft things clamour to be updated and
> sometimes require reboots: java, Adobe Flash, Adobe Reader, ATI
> Video driver
>
> - I have to "agree" to multi-page terms at several junctures
>
> - I have no clue about which upgrades can be done in parallel and
> which might step on each others toes. So I do this serially.
>
> - HP Updates tool says I should update the Intel Matrix driver (for
> the hard drives). It stalls during download (0 bytes downloaded).
> Perhaps it is a firewall setting, but I get no help as to what the
> problem is. (Trying again, after all the other updates, seems to
> work. No idea why.)
>
> - At virtually every step, Vista says that a program is doing
> something serious, and do I want to let it?
>
> - Firefox 3.x doesn't automatically upgrade, so I asked it to check
> for updates. It then asked to update to 3.6.y, I said OK, and it
> did. After that, it asked if I wanted to update to the latest
> version. I then had to download and run an executable that took
> several steps.
>
> - Microsoft Security Essentials is now nagging me about an update. I
> guess that means that it isn't updated by Windows Update. No, it
> turns out that it was already updated but the notification thingee
> hadn't noticed.
>
> Updating Fedora is much easier.
>
> BTW, I recently updated my iPad to iOS 5. Even that was more awkward
> than Fedora updates. Typing in my WPA key again, through the
> touchscreen, was particularly annoying. And yes, I still speak
> English. Of course I had to fire up a Windows box to run iTunes to do
> the update.
>
> In contrast, the HP TouchPad update I did yesterday was much easier. I
> didn't need to tether it, only one reboot, taken care of
> automatically.
>
> Ubuntu updates are as easy as Fedora updates except in the odd case
> where a config file is being changed. Two bad things happen:
>
> - the update hangs on a prompt (that's against Red Hat rules)
> so unattended updates don't work
>
> - the system wants the operator to specify what it should do with the
> conflicting config files. I am usually unprepared to answer
> questions about obscure programs' obscure config files.
>
> I admit that doing better safely is hard.
>
> CentOS updates are as easy as Fedora updates. But for much of this
> year, CentOS didn't issue any updates -- somewhat worrying. They are
> back at it now.
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