Byron Sonne....

[ted leslie]

i stated in my email i didn't have the facts, i stated what i heard,
it took up a decent amount for press,
he (somehow) attracted attention as someone who "could" have caused a
problem at the summit
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/02/25/majority-of-g20-charges-against-security-consultant-byron-sonne-dropped/
irregardless of whether he did it or not, my point was (at a minimum),
was he warned and did he continue,
morally (if he was warned, and did continue), he was morally wrong in
detouring resources that could
have saved lives if there was an issue. He obviously did focus a lot
of attention on himself,
maybe in the end, this is exactly what he wanted to happen (a big deal
made of it)
because he was frustrated with the system and couldn't think of any other way.
I will reserve my judgment until the facts come out.
but, someone deserves to serve some time, him, or a police chief,
whoever - chuck someone in prison.
someone screwed up and endangered Canadians lives, and needs to pay.
If terrorists antraxed union station, and it wasn't caught because of
a "wild goose chase",
now that would just be dam peachy wouldn't it?
There are major idiots in the legal system and in government but I
like to think there are some
check and balances that mean this couldn't have gotten this far
without some teeth - yeah I know
"wishful thinking". If he was set up, someone framed him? then hey, he
will get 20 million for his time spent,
not so bad i suppose, i'd take 20M for 8-24 in a health spa, and he
will have promoted his cause too (whatever it is).
But I hope he gets fair due process, I hope (if he is innocent), he
gets his 20M (to which i will pay my 4$ of it), and I hope whoever in
the system
screwed up, get prison time (to which i will be paying another .40$
for their incarceration each year).
Fortunately my last paragraph clears me of any "shockingly ignorant on
several levels" and being "unforgivably insensitive"

tl


On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Thomas Milne
<tbrucemilne-TcoXwbchSccMMYnvST3LeUB+6BGkLq7r at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Can you even tell me what it was he did that was wrong? You don't seem
> to mention anything specifically, but you claim that he deserved his
> punishment. Amazing, because even the courts haven't come to a
> decision yet, but you have.
>
> What you've written is shockingly ignorant on several levels, and to
> anyone who might be a friend of Byron's, unforgivably insensitive.
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:47 AM, ted leslie <ted.leslie-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> In the brief amount i followed this when it happened,
>> is it not simply the case that he baited law-enforcement,
>> took resources away from making sure Canadians were secure,
>> and thus his actions put us all in danger, and he needs a much
>> deserved stay at the big house?(or some psychological help?)
>>  I know some people think
>> what he did was obviously a joke, but the law can't make
>> that assumption, as if he actually did in the end
>> do (aid) in something, heads would roll and the people
>> would get very upset. I hope he gets a few months
>> a the health spa (we call the Canadian prison/jail system)
>> (and time already served counted), and he hopefully
>> will realize what he did was just so stupid.
>> He is just lucky in the end there wasn't a "action" at the
>> G20, and his mis-steering of important resources didn't result
>> in getting innocent people getting killed, but, it could
>> have been the case, and I am sure he wouldn't be
>> too proud of that. Now I understand how he was treated
>> after the fact, may be the main concern here (his rights),
>> but personally what he did was so stupid, I am glad he
>> got put through the ringer. If we had many people like him
>> in this country, then we would be totally screwed, as our
>> security people wouldn't be able to do any sort of job.
>>
>> Having said all this, I know little about the case, just the high
>> level stuff spoken on here and in the news (on tv) at the time.
>> I would hope that if his actions were misunderstood,
>> and there was "mistakes" in the system,  did he not
>> get a warning, which he ignored?
>>
>> I guess my main concern is, if he really did
>> detour resources, and in general the authorities
>> had to take with even 1% possibility, that he may
>> in fact have been plotting (or aiding in something),
>> seems to me, it all went down as it should have,
>> and the system handled it correctly and we can
>> take great pride in the system.
>>
>> I am sure if there is more to the story, facts i need to know
>> that would show me in fact in no way did he do anything to
>> taught/deceive/detour law-enforcement, I am guessing
>> people will be posting it here.  But my main issue is, if
>> he detoured resources (even if morally  wrong, not directly legally
>> wrong), he should pay,
>> as if everyone did that, we  would be SOL as a country.
>>
>> tl
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Colin McGregor <colin.mc151-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> A court case that I have been following to some degree is the one
>>> against Byron Sonne, an IT security expert who was arrested before the
>>> G20 meeting last year. In late January I spent about a half hour
>>> watching a small part of his preliminary hearing (where the Crown
>>> (government) Prosecutor has to prove to a judge that they have enough
>>> evidence that when they do reach trial they will not be laughed out).
>>> The preliminary hearing is over and here is what happened:
>>>
>>> http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/945221--most-charges-dropped-against-g20-accused-in-jail-since-last-june
>>>
>>> Bottom line, most of the charges against Byron Sonne have been
>>> dropped. Based on what little I saw the only thing that surprises me
>>> is that any of the charges are still in place.
>>>
>>>
>>> Colin McGregor
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