Nokia to use Window mobile 7

[ted leslie]

3 is working, mono versions don't track MS exactly, mono has stuff in
say 3 that MS is only announcing in 5.
4 is in a few months, its about 60%-70% (according to a blog in late dec).
MS SilverLight isn't as fast a moving target now, and not so many new
features, as has pretty much kitchen sink now,
only draw back is no covenant protect announced yet for SL5, but 3-4
does everything i need now.
but this is actually talking SL specific, so really more comparable to
java, flash competition,
I don't know if i would ever use EB4 for WPF specific apps, as not
platform compat.
but mono is going with out-of-brower ML as a recommendation to some
one who would consider WPF particular to MS.

Silverlight works on Linux just fine to 2, 3 is basically there, and 4
is close. It doesn't fit for all project (not yet), but good for most.
Not sure what would be better, MS makes sure C# is feature equal (and
some  extra ) to Java, C and C++ are long dead as far as new features
and usability, plus C# has almost all C ability in it anyways
(pointers and such), and will become a faster run time as per C
limitations of not having
JIT  compiler specifics to the CPU instruction sets basically make
C/C++ useless going forward, i.e. my compiled C/C++ program
isn't going to make use of SSE X instruction that I don't compile to
now, because maybe they doen't even exist yet because they
are in the intel  cpu release 6 month from now, and I am not going to
keep compiling my app (especially commercial) to track new
CPU instruction sets, rather get in this century, compile once, and
have it speed up as the CPU get better, and get it all for free, as
well
not have different binaries for different platforms, and naturally not
cater to all of them, as its to messy (time consuming).

Rather just compile once, and know it will/could outperform C on arm,
intel, amd, <insert processor here>, and I don't have to futz with it.
Having said that, of course I will have to recompile to say make use
of a new PhysX feature, but that would be same for any platform,
but if amd puts out a cpu with 64 register (of a certain type for
example, (they have 32 or 16 now) I know i will get the benefit if my
app. is deployed on it (provided mono/.net runtime is installed that
supports said feature.)

Having said all this, the mono community has lagged far behind,
especially years ago, but they are much closer now to tracking MS on
.net/SL.
Intel also is building a .net runtime environment, not sure their progress.

tl

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Lennart Sorensen
<lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 05:38:35PM -0500, ted leslie wrote:
>> i havn't used qt dev in a while, but i find it hard to believe for gui
>> design anything
>> even comes close to Expression Blend (4). The segmentation of coder to
>> designer is insanely cool and clean (xaml),
>> and the  rapidness of development is also unbelievable.  (and have you
>> tried sketchflow for presentation of work?)
>> If you MS MFC with C++, have you ever Expression Blend'ed with c#  (or
>> maybe managed c++ if its supported, i can't remember).
>> If you want a true open platform that deploys everywhere with
>> performance of C  just go with moonlight/silverlight so your
>> good to hit apple iphone/pad, apple Power, apple intel, windows,
>> windows mobile, linux, meego, andriod, sun,  .......
>
> Silverlight does not work on linux.
>
> moonlight does OK for silverlight 2, but 3 and 4 are non existant,
> and parts of 4 will never happen because they are for Windows only APIs.
>
> So, no it really would be a very stupid idea.  Even java would work
> better than that and I wouldn't recommend it either.
>
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