Asus motherboard? -- never again!

[Tyler Aviss]

Onboard generally uses shared memory, which is often faster, and uses
RAM that could otherwise be used for the system. As modern cards/games
may have between 256MB-1GB, using the equivalent in shared can be
quite a bit.

Many of these seem to be scaled-down versions of the chips too,
possible the mobile/laptop variety. I know the supposed GeForce 9200
on my shuttle doesn't like newer DX9 games with fancy lighting
effects, though "Half Life 2"  etc seem good.


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Jose <jtc-vS8X3Ji+8Wg6e3DpGhMbh2oLBQzVVOGK at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 3/30/2010 5:50 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 02:06:25PM -0400, Jose wrote:
>>>
>>> Mmmm, that what I thought, but did not know about the intel chipset bug.
>>
>> It isn't a bug.  It was designed with 32 address lines.  It's a limitation
>> of the design and entirely intensional.
>>
>>> Not meaning to kidnap the topic, What would be a good model to buy these
>>> days, I am also shopping for a new motherboard, and was thinking of a
>>> intel- core 7 or quadcore as they are becoming cheaper, any suggestions?
>>
>> Well last year I built a machine for my wife using an Asus P6T with a
>> Core i7 920 D1 stepping and 3 x 2GB G.skill DDR3 10666 ram.
>>
>> Very happy with the result so far.
>>
>> A much cheaper option that is available now but wasn't when I built that
>> machine is a Core i7 using one of the P55 chipsets rather than the rather
>> expensive X58, using dual channel rather than tripple channel memory.
>> Tripple channel probably really isn't doing any real benefit until you
>> move to the 6 core (rather than 4 core) version of the i7.  You can get
>> those now of course, assuming you thinkg $1300 for a CPU is reasonable.
>>
>> The P7P55D line looks nice at the moment.  Some have dual gigabit
>> ethernet, some have one.  Some can run SLI some can't.  Some have 2 PCI
>> slots some have 3, with a similar but inverse change in number of PCI
>> express slots.  Some have firewire.  Some (the -E versions it seems)
>> have USB3 and SATA 6Gbps ports available (not convinced either is that
>> big a deal yet, but still nice).  Prices seem to range from $135 to
>> about $235 depending on the features.
>>
>> A core i7 860 (quad core + hyper threading at 2.8GHz) goes for about $300.
>> A core i5 750 (quad core at 2.67GHz) goes for about $225.
>> A core i5 660 (dual core + hyper threading at 3.33Ghz) also goes for
>> about $225.  Slightly more clock speed, but less cores.  Depends on the
>> work load which makes more sense.
>>
>> Add whatever video card you like and a case and a decent power supply,
>> and some disks and maybe 2 x 2GB or 4 x 2GB ram, and you are all set.
>> 4GB sticks still seem hard to find.  Check ram on the motherboard
>> compatibility list just to be sure.  Never buy DDR3 ram that requires
>> more than 1.65V if using an intel core i3/i5/i7 CPU.
>>
>> If you just want cheap, you could drop to a core i3 with onboard video,
>> but I tend to ignore that option.
>>
> Hi Lennart,
>
> Thanks for the great advice.
>
> one question tough, you mentioned you tend to ignore the onboard video,
> why?, I see all these motherboards advertising nvidia or ATI video chips,
> that means you get an actual lower nvidia card included or it's just for
> compatibility?
>
> Thanks again
>
> Jose
>
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