Hacklab nerd caught in G20 security sweep
Gary Layng
glayng-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg at public.gmane.org
Sat Jun 26 04:06:28 UTC 2010
One of the reasons why our so-called democracy is such a farce is that over
the past fifty years we have forgotten, or never had our noses rubbed into the
fact that along with rights come responsibilities. Ignore your
responsibilities, and your rights vanish as with the morning dew.
Ever since the farce that was the Seattle "protests", we've seen an escalating
police response: no surprise, as they're charged with "keeping the peace", and
ever since Seattle, the protests at these multinational summits have proven
anything but.
One of our most important responsibilities is to behave in a measured manner:
Keep your powder dry for the real difficulties. Burn the place down when people
are arrested for the crime of advocating a change in government policy, not
because you object that someone decided to build a fast-food restaurant with a
silly-arsed clown as a mascot. It's there because people like to dine there
for some reason, and destroying the restaurant is an attack not on the
corporate owners, but on the diners.
Protesting poverty by trashing, looting and burning the very stores where the
working poor are struggling to earn a living is at best counterproductive, yet
many of the G-8 and G-20 protesters seem to think this is appropriate. How
this helps the poor they claim to support escapes me completely.
Another responsibility is to know what you're talking about. One young lady
marching at the G-8 this morning was quoted in a radio report claiming that
"water isn't a commodity!" Well, no, ordinary water is not. That's because
ordinary water is and has been for millions of years salty sometimes to the
point of brackishness, or stagnant, or both - at any rate, not drinkable by
anybody without a death wish. Potable water IS a commodity. It is expensive
to obtain, expensive to bring from the location where it's found to the
location where it's needed, and expensive to treat it as necessary if it isn't
yet 100% safe to drink. Over the centuries wars have been fought over this
precious resource, and I have no doubt more will occur. And this girl wants
to make it a human right that everyone can have free, potable water just as
she does. Ask her how much her city pays for water main repair, water
treatment and water storage. I think she'll find the dollar value is somewhere
north of "free".
From OCAP protesting that its clients, largely abusers of drugs or alcohol,
can and should be somehow lifted out of poverty without treating the
underlying causes, to people who think despite every evidence to the contrary
over the centuries that we'll have better economies and wealthier nations by
shutting down trade between countries, to those who think the best way to
combat racism is to introduce more in reverse form in the sacred name of
Political Correctness, they all seem to be under the impression that the
appropriate response to the public's lack of appreciation of their Holy Vision
is to trash the place. Any loss of rights isn't due to a lack of vigilance on
the regular citizens' part, it's due to a policy on the part of these useful
idiots out there of deliberately giving our rights away by pretending they can
have their childish temper tantrums without having to suffer the consequences.
On Friday 25 June 2010 22:16:35 you wrote:
> I would like to add my voice of dissent to this farce we call democracy in
> Canada. How many governments in history have invoked security and public
> safety to squash other voices and individual liberty. I don't know Byron
> but my heart goes out to him in what has become a witch hunt for
> "terrorists".
>
> Randy Jonasz
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Digimer <linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On 10-06-25 08:35 PM, Ken Burtch wrote:
> >> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Digimer wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10-06-25 04:25 PM, Ken Burtch wrote:
> >>>> Keep in mind that this list is publically accessible and that this
> >>>> list must be monitored right now. I would suggest you defer this
> >>>> thread until things quiet down and we have more information.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ken B.
> >>>
> >>> People should never, ever, be afraid to speak their mind. No one here
> >>> is or has advocated, provoked or otherwise supported an illegal
> >>> action. Anyone who did so should and would be removed from this list.
> >>>
> >>> <Digimer waves to the boogeyman>
> >>
> >> I did not say you cannot speak about it. Speak about it later.
> >>
> >> Ken B.
> >
> > No difference.
> >
> > In fact, that's part of my point. "Temporary" erosion of rights is never
> > acceptable because, one day, "temporary" doesn't end.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Digimer
> > E-Mail: linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org
> > AN!Whitepapers: http://alteeve.com
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