MAME - The Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator.

Wed Jun 16 19:32:34 UTC 2010

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, ted leslie <tleslie-RBVUpeUoHUc at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> what size is that crt? and is there mag. and mirror or something that makes it look bigger in the
> cabinet?
>
> The button issue? isn't it just as easy as mapping the joystick port buttons (assuming you have that on the
> mobo, to the buttons on the game?), yeah having it go to mouse/kb really would make it sux.
>
> I would love to do this too. I have a 21" view sonic crt here doing nothing, and it may make a good
> crt to put in one of these? As well i have mobo's of needed power just laying around collecting dust.
>
> Colin, I didn't see to many games in your links. Is it the case do to legality, that you really have to
> dig for them? Was nice to see some games even of recent vintage (i.e. 2000) posted.

I have listed all the games that I am aware of that are available as
free downloads with the approval of the copyright holder (if there are
any others out there that I have not listed, please add them or let me
know about them). Some other games have been sold on CD by the
copyright holders to game fans. But bottom line with this project is
that while MAME supports roughly 8,000 games, the only way to get the
vast majority of those games, without fear of lawsuit, is to at least
acquire the original ROM chips that were in the game machine in
question.

Semi off topic, recently I was asked in an online survey if I had
copied / forwarded published book / magazine articles. Not sure who
was running the survey or why. Still I answered that yes, in the past
year I have copied / distributed magazine articles. What was not
asked, thus not answered, was if I had the permission of the copyright
holder, The only articles I copied / distributed were ones that I
wrote for publication, (so I had the permission of the copyright
holder (me!)). Still, I wonder if I might see some "big" study
announcing rampant copyright infringement in Canada, or worse, get
sued for infringing on one Colin McGregor's copyright ...  So, if I
seem to be tap dancing around the question of copyright material ...
well there is a reason ...

> Definitely a cool project for the rec-room, to re-live the arcade days of my youth, without actually
> having 20 physical units (in the rec-room).
>
> Now of course there is all the chatter of the 3d games (and crt/tv) just being released now.
> Maybe some one will mod these games (and MAME) to put out 3D versions of some of them, would be quite wild,
> not sure how easy it is to get in an modify MAME game code .. if its all roms, of essentially machine code ..
> I want to re-live the arcade playing of my youth (in my rec-room), but not the assembly language programming
> (of my youth), that I DO NOT miss! :)

MAME's job is to mimic old game machine hardware, so its job is just
to run old machine code. If you wanted 3-D games you would have to
modify both MAME (which is open source) and the game ROMs as well
(which are closed source). Bottom line, might be an interesting
intellectual exercise, but not very practical...

Colin.

> tl
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:08:16 -0700
> Tyler Aviss <tjaviss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> I have an album here. It's pretty hastily thrown up on FB though,
>> without rotating or a step-through. Later I'll post it on my webpage
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=184403&id=585701916&l=3af18b43c3
>>
>> They don't reflect all the recent changes, but covers the basics. The
>> thing was in deep need of some TLC/cleaning when I got it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Colin McGregor <colin.mc151-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Tyler Aviss <tjaviss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >> I just finished gutting and rebuilding an arcade cabinet with a linux-based
>> >> MAME setup actually. Still trying to find an optimal front-end for a "no
>> >> keyboarf no mouse" experience though
>> >
>> > Cool.
>> >
>> > Okay some questions:
>> >
>> > - How did you get your arcade cabinet? If there is a shop (or shops)
>> > in the GTA that sell used arcade machines suitable for conversion I
>> > would love to include them on the GTALug MAME page.
>> >
>>
>> I actually bought mine off a co-worker's son, who happened to be one
>> of those packrat types that had collected a few old cabinets (that was
>> the only one he's sell though).
>>
>> > - Where did you get parts to fix / refurbish your cabinet? Again
>> > something for the Wiki...
>>
>>
>> I gutted the internals, including the power supply, boards, speakers,
>> and a rather heavy old CRT, etc. I kept the frame, joystick/buttons,
>> coin-door assembly, etc.
>>
>> The computer stuff just came from a normal PC, of course, and a pair
>> of powered speakers to replace the one that was amp'ed by the internal
>> power supply. I still need to replace the backlight on the sign (the
>> ballast appears to be dead) and print up something "prettier" with
>> colour as well for that.
>>
>> I used an LCD that I found at Active Surplus quite a long time ago. It
>> was already out of the bezel etc so it worked nicely after I figured
>> out the modelines.
>>
>> To interface with the PC, I picked up a "I-PAC 2" from ultimarc.com.
>> That can be wired to the buttons (common ground, and one wire per
>> each) and then acts like a keyboard giving off MAME-friendly codes.
>> The only real work I had to do was wiring it up properly, and adding a
>> UDEV entry to set permissions correctly.
>>
>> http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html
>>
>> They also have an "economy" version of the I-PAC, which is similar but
>> with less inputs and you can't permanently save button layout changes
>> (but the defaults worked just fine for me anyhow).
>>
>> >
>> > - What sort of CPU are you using to drive the cabinet and how does it
>> > perform on games from say the 1990s (ie: I would love to see advice on
>> > how good (or bad) a machine you can use to drive a MAME system).
>> >
>> > Colin.
>>
>> I believe it was a 2.5Ghz Celeron. I haven't found anything that it
>> won't run as of yet.
>> I've played with MAME running on a 1Ghz Via EPIA, and most stuff even
>> ran OK on that.
>>
>>
>> Now if anyone can recommend a UI that works well with the joysticks
>> etc so I can dump the mouse... that'd be awesome.
>>
>>
>> Let me know if you need more info.
>>
>> - TJA
>>
>> >
>> >> On 2010-06-16 10:08 AM, "Colin McGregor" <colin.mc151-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Christopher Browne <cbbrowne at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2...
>> >>
>> >> Good stuff... Quick question, has anyone on this list built a MAME
>> >> cabinet (or taken an old video game cabinet and refurbished it to play
>> >> MAME)? If so, I would love to pick your brain for a bit :-) .
>> >>
>> >> Colin McGregor
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