Linux-related jobs in Toronto

[William Park]

On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 09:27:55PM -0500, CLIFFORD ILKAY wrote:
> On 02/06/2010 03:06 PM, Zbigniew Koziol wrote:
> >I know, I have no doubt about that that you are excellent in Linux. But
> >I personally have a very bad opinion about Canadian employers - they
> >mostly have no idea who is good and who is not and (I would even dare to
> >say that a lot of them a complete ignorants and offer jobs to
> >ignorants), additionally, its rather used that since you are a newcomer
> >you must first to earn your fuc*en Canadian experience (this is a sort
> >of megalomany on their side to think that non-Canadians have worser
> >experience and also a lack of will to learn from these who might be
> >better than they are).
> 
> While there may be some employers use "Canadian experience" to mean 
> "immigrants need not apply", I'm sure they're in the minority, 
> especially in the IT field. A substantial percentage of the population 
> of Toronto was born outside of Canada. That being the case, with jobs 
> where skills matter, it's simply not a rational economic choice to only 
> hire those who were born here or grew up here. The pool is too small. I 
> encounter plenty of first-generation immigrants in IT.
> 
> As for your particular experience in Canada, Zbigniew, with your 
> attitude, I'm not surprised you had difficulties. You exude negativity 
> and always like to remind us how much smarter you are and how stupid 
> Canadians are, and how how bad this country is. As an employer, I would 
> rather hire someone who may not be a superstar but has a positive 
> attitude and who is a team player than a prickly, capricious, and 
> negative "superstar" who can't get along with people.
> 
> The flip side of employers who discriminate on the basis of irrelevant 
> factors are employees who see discrimination as the cause of their 
> perceived or real lack of achievement. I've worked with a few people 
> like that. They were always carrying on about how their employer was out 
> to get them because they had darker skin, or whatever, while 
> conveniently ignoring the fact that there were other immigrants of 
> various skin tones, religions, and nationalities who seemed to do well 
> with the same employer. Eventually, their constant whining and paranoia 
> would become a self-fulfilling prophecy and either they would move on to 
> poison some other workplace or they would be fired. I certainly wouldn't 
> want to hire or keep a whiner like that around. They're just toxic.
> 
> There is also a practical reason for asking for "Canadian experience". 
> I'm not likely to pick up the phone to call someone in Poland or Russia 
> to confirm that Zbigniew worked there and "Oh, by the way, what sort of 
> fellow is Zbigniew?" If you had some local experience, the odds are 
> higher that I can get the real story behind your story by working my 
> network.

Further to this... OP should know that Canada is "branch office" of US.
This means most jobs are "sales" related.  So, "Canadian experience"
really means knowledge of business market, number of industry
connections, etc.  Anything that can make a "sale".

> 
> As for employers not knowing who is good or bad, why is that so unusual, 
> particularly for technical positions? It's not exactly shocking that if 
> you put out an ad, you'll get many responses from unqualified or 
> under-qualified people. It's safe to assume that many applicants will at 
> the very least, embellish, if not misrepresent, their qualifications and 
> experience so it's natural for employers to be sceptical. Making the 
> wrong hiring decision can be very expensive so employers need to be 
> cautious. Don't take that personally.

-- 
William

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