Installing xfe on base Debian

[Dave Germiquet]

Hey Giles,

Does the same thing happen with apt-get? Doesn't aptitude offer more choices
than apt-get usually?

Just wondering I rarely use aptitude and usually use apt-get.

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Giles Orr <gilesorr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Sunday I was helping a friend install a new, completely
> stripped-down Debian testing system.  After we added X and fluxbox, he
> wanted a file manager and chose what we both thought was a relatively
> light-weight one, xfe.  Here's how it went:
>
> root at thinkpad:~# aptitude install xfe
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  audacious{a} audacious-plugins{a} dbus-x11{a} desktop-file-utils{a}
>  esound-clients{a} esound-common{a} exiftran{a} exiv2{a} gconf2{a}
>  gconf2-common{a} geeqie{a} geeqie-common{a} gqview{a}
>  gtk2-engines-pixbuf{a} imagemagick{a} libasyncns0{a} libaudclient2{a}
>  libaudcore1{a} libaudid3tag2{a} libaudiofile0{a} libavcodec52{a}
>  libavformat52{a} libavutil49{a} libbinio1ldbl{a} libcanberra-gtk-module{a}
>  libcanberra-gtk0{a} libcanberra0{a} libcddb2{a} libcdio-cdda0{a}
>  libcdio10{a} libcdt4{a} libcue1{a} libdbus-glib-1-2{a}
>  libdirac-encoder0{a} libdirectfb-1.2-9{a} libdjvulibre-text{a}
>  libdjvulibre21{a} libesd0{a} libexif12{a} libexiv2-9{a} libfaad2{a}
>  libflac8{a} libfluidsynth1{a} libfox-1.6-0{a} libgconf2-4{a}
>  libgd2-noxpm{a} libglu1-mesa{a} libgraph4{a} libgsm1{a}
>  libgtkimageview0{a} libgvc5{a} libidl0{a} libilmbase6{a}
>  libjack-jackd2-0{a} liblash2{a} liblircclient0{a} liblqr-1-0{a}
>  libltdl7{a} libmad0{a} libmagickcore3{a} libmagickcore3-extra{a}
>  libmagickwand3{a} libmcs1{a} libmms0{a} libmowgli1{a} libmtp8{a}
>  libneon27-gnutls{a} libnetpbm10{a} libnotify1{a} libogg0{a} libopenexr6{a}
>  liborbit2{a} liborc-0.4-0{a} libpathplan4{a} libpulse0{a}
>  libresid-builder0c2a{a} librsvg2-common{a} libsamplerate0{a}
>  libschroedinger-1.0-0{a} libsdl1.2debian{a} libsdl1.2debian-alsa{a}
>  libshout3{a} libsidplay2{a} libsndfile1{a} libspeex1{a} libsvga1{a}
>  libtdb1{a} libtheora0{a} libts-0.0-0{a} libvorbis0a{a} libvorbisenc2{a}
>  libvorbisfile3{a} libwavpack1{a} libwmf0.2-7{a} libwnck-common{a}
>  libwnck22{a} libxdot4{a} libxres1{a} netpbm{a} notification-daemon{a}
>  tsconf{a} ufraw{a} ufraw-batch{a} unzip{a} xfe xfe-i18n{a} xfe-themes{a}
>  zenity{a}
> 0 packages upgraded, 108 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 36.6MB of archives. After unpacking 103MB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
>
> Excuse me?  Audacious??  A year ago Debian users were smart enough to
> install audacious and geeqie when we needed them: now we're too
> stupid?  And I'm not even going to discuss the other things it claims
> to depend on.
>
> On the xfe sourceforge download page there's a i386 deb package that
> had only two requirements: "libglu1-mesa 7.7.1-4 [213kB]" and
> "libfox-1.6-0 1.6.37-1 [1,212kB]".
>
> That's truly spectacular dependency bloat.  What exactly has happened
> to Debian?  It used to be that Ubuntu was based on Debian, and those
> who wanted more control chose Debian.  Now it seems that Debian is
> trying to be Ubuntu?  "Don't think, we'll do it for you."
>
> While this may strike some as flame-bait, it's actually a desperate
> plea for explanation-and-understanding from a long-time Debian user
> who thinks his distro is going insane.
>
> --
> Giles
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