Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

Madison Kelly linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org
Wed Nov 4 16:43:30 UTC 2009

Thomas Milne wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Madison Kelly <linux-5ZoueyuiTZhBDgjK7y7TUQ at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 01:06:50AM -0500, Rajinder Yadav wrote:
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>>> Yet more evidence against fixed release dates.
>> Oddly enough, I still think it's a beautiful release and heads above 9.04. I
>> guess the lesson here is; For best results, backup and re-install. :)
> This is going to sound like a troll, but I am honestly trying to
> understand. I've tried Ubuntu, and it was nice. But in the end I
> looked at Debian and thought 'it's as good or better, and I'll never
> have to reinstall again, or at least until I get new hardware'. At
> that point it was an easy choice.
> Surely the Ubuntu install is no easier than Debian, especially for
> experienced users like yourself. I don't remember anything from Ubuntu
> that I can't get on Debian.
> So, what is the advantage to using Ubuntu?

Nope, I don't take that as a troll at all. It's a fair question. :)

For me, I love Debian, and have even grown to have a grudging like of 
CentOS. However, these are more server oriented. To that point, I run 
Debian on my server and CentOS on my work servers.

The reason I use Ubuntu on my workstation and laptop is how little 
hassle it is to have all the modern features there and working. For 
example, out of the box;

* my sound words from multiple sources where on Debian it only worked 
from one source at a time.
* Firefox 3.5 is default.
* Video codecs are there or automatically detected and downloaded as needed.
* Wireless worked out of the box and has a nice interface for switching 
between networks.
* A much larger repo of apps.

   However, it's a trade off. Ubuntu does crash now and then exactly 
because it's much more bleeding edge. I wouldn't trust secure data to 
Ubuntu for the same reason. I expect to reinstall my workstation with 
each new release, where I know my server will keep on trucking for as 
long as I want it to.

   To me, the difference can be summed up as; Ubuntu is a workstation OS 
and Debian is a server OS. Both fill those roles very well and trying to 
compare them is an apples to oranges affair.


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