OT: Credit Card charges after original invoice

[Tyler Aviss]

To put this in another perspective, let's say that this purchase was
not for myself, but for my employer, and it's something like 50 LCD
monitors, but I'll use the same dates as the purchase and new invoice

* On May 9 I go online, select to order 50 monitors, and print off the
final invoice which includes the item cost, shipping, and taxes
* I present this invoice to my manager, and he approves it
* I then proceed to put the charges on my card

* The monitors arrive, I submit the invoice to accounting
* I leave the company, and collect my final paycheque + reimbursement.
* On June 22nd, I receive a NEW invoice, stating I have "purchased" a
monitor disposal fee. If I had been purchasing 50 monitors, this would
probably have been several hundred dollars.

So what happens now. I was never presented with the charges, never
presented them to my employer and/or had them authorized, and I've
since left the company. Perhaps I was fired, who knows, but either way
it's a very suspicious charge. But the fact is that NOBODY was ever
presented with these charges at the time of purchase, nor agreed to
put them on my card.

There is a reason why people get an invoice at the time of/just before
purchase...




On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Tyler Aviss<tjaviss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Yup, but one should also be invoiced for the total bill amount at the
> time of purchase. It's not really an issue of them charging me the
> fee, but rather that they never gave any notice of the fee at the time
> the item was purchased.
>
> Simply solved by adding a line to the invoice like:
>
>    ITEM
>    Government Environmental **fee: $20.00
>    PST
>    GST
>
>
> ** To be charged after a period of one month, provided item is not
> returned to seller.
>
> or even a line
>  Government Environmental fees to be assessed and charged at a later date
>
>
> To charge a fee that was never indicated in the original sales
> agreement, and one month later... very sketchy. What if they started
> doing this for sales tax and/or shipping to under-represent the actual
> cost of a purchase.
>
> It seems especially dubious when other merchants have the mandated
> recycling fees included in the cost, much like the CD-levy etc at many
> retailers. If the retailer does charge the levy seperately, it's
> presented in the total at the cashier/invoice before you pay
> (alongside taxes, etc)
>
>
> - TJA
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:26 PM, William Park<opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> If they were supposed to charge you and you were supposed
>> to pay the fee (legal requirement), then you will end up paying in "full", whether in 1, 2, or more payments until
>> the "sale transaction" is complete.
>>
>> But, it's a bit odd, I must admit.  You could argue to your
>> bank (the gull of those guys to charge you a month later, and so on...), but I doubt you'll win.
>>
>> --William
>>
>> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Tyler Aviss <tjaviss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Tyler Aviss <tjaviss-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org>
>>> Subject: [TLUG]: OT: Credit Card charges after original invoice
>>> To: "tlug" <tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org>
>>> Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:07 PM
>>> About a month ago, I ordered a HD
>>> monitor (basically an HDTV without
>>> the tuner) from TigerDirect. The original invoice included
>>> the
>>> shipping costs ($0) and PST/GST, which I authorized for
>>> purchase and
>>> was charged to my Visa. One month later, I received an
>>> email from TD
>>> stating:
>>>   Your order shipped on 6/22/2009 and is on its way to
>>> you
>>>   MONITOR (LCD OR CRT) DISPOSAL SURCHARGE  (CA
>>> BCDS 008 CA )
>>>
>>> This charge was not on mentioned my original invoice, nor
>>> did I
>>> authorize it to my card. While companies are required in
>>> various cases
>>> to charge a "disposal fee" for certain electronics,
>>> standard practice
>>> is to either include it in the price, or charge it in the
>>> original
>>> invoice. TD argues that if I had returned the TV, they
>>> wouldn't be
>>> able to return a gov't fee, so they charge it later
>>>
>>> Can anyone comment as to whether charging it a month later
>>> is legal if
>>> not included in the original invoice. Seems to me that Visa
>>> is
>>> probably going to have them for lunch for an unauthorized
>>> charge, and
>>> the competition bureau is probably going to look dimly on
>>> this as well
>>> (as not listing total costs on the original invoice could
>>> possibly be
>>> deemed anticompetitive).
>>>
>>> Comments, suggestions?
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>
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> Tyler Aviss
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>



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