OT: Bell reveals internet throttling details to CRTC

[meng]

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From: JoeHill joehill-R6A+fiHC8nRWk0Htik3J/w at public.gmane.org
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:19:03 -0400
To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [TLUG]: OT: Bell reveals internet throttling details to CRTC

> Madison Kelly wrote: 
> 
> > Mel Wilson wrote:
> > > Andrej Marjan wrote:
> > > [ ... ]  
> > >> However I've heard from a number of people with different DSL ISPs 
> > >> that arbitrary encrypted connections get killed, as you've described.
> > >>
> > >> So is there a third option -- neither Rogers, nor someone that Bell 
> > >> can sabotage?  
> > > 
> > > I know of nothing, short of reinventing FidoNet with our wireless routers.
> > > 
> > >     Mel.  
> > 
> > Well, that was the idea of mesh networking.
> > 
> > The problem though is that for 95% of people, the shaping means nothing. 
> > They don't care, and they see no reason to worry about it, if they think 
> > of it at all.
> > 
> > Of the last 5% of us who do care, our numbers are too small to do 
> > anything about it at this time. We could get into an arms race of 
> > sorts... We come up with ways to bypass their filters, they lock things 
> > down more (my theory on the SSH tunnels), but at the end of the day 
> > nothing gets fixed.
> > 
> > The problem is the bandwidth needed to compete with cable/DSL while at 
> > the same time being able to afford the infrastructure when the cost is 
> > borne by a fairly small group. As of today, I don't see a capable 
> > technology.
> > 
> > My only hope is that these restrictions will continue to press enough 
> > that eventuall, Internet delivery will have it's own "Linux/FOSS" moment 
> > and someone smarter than me will come up with that new, magical delivery 
> > method that finally works around the big telco's.
> 
> MLPPP is working fine for me. No throttling here. :-)
>  

Same here, thanks again Joe for your original post :-)

Meng

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