CRTC to look at how Internet traffic is managed
devguy-DaQTI0RpDDMAvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Sun Jul 5 23:39:52 UTC 2009
I find the following statement perplexing, which is it? Rogers wants to sound like the good guy in all this traffic shaping =)
>>Traffic isn't shaped when a Rogers customer downloads a file or a
>>video, said Ken Engelhart, senior vice-president of regulatory.
>>"We give complete access to any content you want," Engelhart said.
>>But he said peer-to-peer file sharing applications that "swamp" the
>>network are managed, he said.
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Michael Lauzon <mlauzon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> From: Michael Lauzon <mlauzon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [TLUG]: CRTC to look at how Internet traffic is managed
> To: "TLUG" <tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org>
> Received: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 6:40 PM
> From an article on CTV.ca:
> MONTREAL -- How Internet service providers deal with
> thousands of
> customers using their networks will come under scrutiny by
> the CRTC
> starting this week with public hearings on their policies
> to manage or
> shape the flow of user traffic.
> The CRTC hearings will look at Internet traffic management
> by service providers. Among ISPs testifying are Bell
> (TSX:BCE), Rogers
> Communications (TSX:RCI,B), Telus (TSX:T) and Quebecor
> Independent Internet service providers say they are being
> penalized by
> practices to limit some traffic.
> "I have no way to change that experience," said Tom
> Copeland, head of
> the Canadian Association of Internet Providers.
> "It's out of my control," said Copeland, who provides
> Internet service
> to about 3,500 customers on Eagle.ca. in Cobourg, Ont. He
> wholesale Internet services from Bell.
> The CRTC sided with Bell in a ruling last fall that stated
> telecommunications company was within its right to regulate
> the flow
> of traffic on its network, but the commission agreed to
> hearings on
> the issue.
> Copeland's association filed a complaint in April 2008
> saying that
> Bell's attempts to regulate who has access to the Internet
> at peak
> hours was an attempt to stifle competition and made it
> impossible for its members to properly manage the services
> "It's hard to imagine that Bell's entire network across
> Ontario and
> Quebec is consistently burdened between 4:30 p.m. and 2
> a.m. seven
> days a week, 365 days a year," Copeland said.
> But, Bell successfully argued it was necessary to limit
> some traffic
> because a relatively small number of users using
> networking were taking up more than half of the network's
> slowing service for regular customers..
> Copeland would like those who are using too much bandwidth
> and slowing
> speeds for other customers to be dealt with individually.
> "We don't target a class of people or a class or
> applications just
> because we have a few rogues on the network who are abusing
> Bell's Mirko Bibic, senior vice-president of regulatory and
> affairs, said the hearings are about traffic management and
> not net
> "Those who claim that these practices violate so-called net
> principles are being alarmist, can't point to any specific
> harm, and
> are taking positions that ignore the realities associated
> building networks and operating them efficiently to ensure
> the best
> possible customer experience," Bibic said.
> Bibic noted the CRTC has said that Bell's traffic
> management practices
> are appropriate and expects that to continue to be the
> Bell Canada is scheduled to appear before the CRTC on July
> Analyst Iain Grant said owners of the networks must be
> allowed to
> manage Internet traffic for the majority of their users.
> "That principal is true in traffic on our streets, it's
> true in
> traffic on our skies and I think it has to be true along
> the pipelines
> that are the flow of information," said Grant of the
> SeaBord Group, a
> technology research and consulting firm.
> The Internet isn't "some romantic notion" and businesses
> are making
> decisions to invest in their networks, Grant said.
> Search engine giant Google will also be making a
> presentation at the
> CRTC hearing as part of the Open Internet Coalition, which
> includes Amazon, Skype and eBay.
> Lawyer Jabob Glick said the coalition doesn't want traffic
> that would restrict or affect software applications, noting
> that the
> file sharing application BitTorrent has been targeted.
> Glick said the coalition believes targeting applications
> would affect
> innovation online and that pricing could help manage
> Internet traffic.
> "We think the ISPs (Internet service providers) should
> flexibility in charging different kinds of amounts for
> different kinds
> of usage," said Glick, Canadian policy counsel for Google
> Rogers Communications said it wants an open Internet with
> few restrictions.
> Traffic isn't shaped when a Rogers customer downloads a
> file or a
> video, said Ken Engelhart, senior vice-president of
> "We give complete access to any content you want,"
> Engelhart said.
> But he said peer-to-peer file sharing applications that
> "swamp" the
> network are managed, he said.
> Michael Lauzon
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