Throttling and SafeVPN

[Dave Cramer]

On 9-May-08, at 3:26 PM, William O'Higgins Witteman wrote:

> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 03:15:05PM -0400, James Knott wrote:
>> Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 01:10:37AM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
>>>> Saw this when digging around re this whole throttling issue:
>>>>
>>>> http://safevpn.net/
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this kind of service?  
>>>> How difficult
>>>> would it be for a community to set something like this up for  
>>>> themselves?
>>>
>>> Some ISPs are throthling all encrypted traffic, making VPNs work  
>>> very
>>> badly (annoying people trying to work remotely when at home trying  
>>> to
>>> reach the office).
>>>
>>
>> With OpenVPN, you can use almost any UDP or TCP port, which makes it
>> difficult for an ISP to identify it as a VPN.
>
> The ISPs are not *trying* to piss off VPN users - they are trying to
> throttle torrents.  Since a great deal of torrent traffic is now
> encrypted, the ISPs do traffic shaping based on encryption, because  
> they
> do not know what service might be encrypted.  Similar to VPN, if you  
> are
> doing work via SSH you will see throttling - making SCP and SSHFS very
> tiresome to use where they were previously very convenient.
> -- 
>
Just use openvpn on port 443, the traffic is indistinguishable

Dave
> yours,
>
> William
>

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