Call for job and 'extended hours'
Scott C. Ripley
scott-VK/PCEBaDz+N9aS15agKxg at public.gmane.org
Wed Jul 4 14:31:43 UTC 2007
i think it boils down to:
(1) most (small-large) employers want to extract as much work from
a salaried (fixed cost) employee as possible
is it reasonable that such an employee should be protected? (via
government regulation, employment contract, etc.)
yes (debatable on perspective) - but (1) still applies. :-)
of course if the employer abuses (1), there will be longer term costs:
- employee turn-over, burn-out, etc.
from the salaried employee's perspective:
- do you want to work (long-term) for an "unreasonable" employer?
if not:
- become as indispensable to your current employer as
possible (leverage)
- attempt to negotiate change (likely unsuccessful)
- find an employer with a different attitude (there are all
varieties of employers out there)
- change/specialize within/outside your field
- acquire skills that are more in demand (leverage)
- work as an hourly contractor
- become an employer (business) and hire some underpaid help! :-)
- ...
some additional thoughts:
- often employers want salaried employees to "think like owners", yet
don't offer compensation arrangements "like owners":
- business owner risk capital for profit
- employees sacrifices/risk their time (often in un-fixed amounts)
for a fixed salary + "promise" of bonus
- sometimes employers have business models that would unsustainable if
they had to compensate their loyal employees more fairly
- people carry around incorrect assumptions regarding
roles/responsibilities of:
- business owners / shareholders
- management employees
- non-management employees
- arguably we are indoctrinated to be "good employees" and believe:
- you should consider yourself "lucky" to have a job
- if you work hard your efforts will (always)
eventually be recognized / compensated
- entrepreneurs / business owners are a special breed &
most people don't have what it takes
- don't question management & business owners (they are
smarter than you!)
- salaried work + benefits is preferable to hourly work
- being temporarily unemployed is a bad thing
- buy lots of stuff and you will be happy
- certain irony exists in the fact that truly good employees are hard to
find
anyways, this is a bit off-topic for this list...
Scott
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Sheldon Mustard wrote:
> On 7/4/07, Neil Watson <tlug-neil-8agRmHhQ+n2CxnSzwYWP7Q at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> I do not think there is such a law. If there is please cite it here.
>> I'm sure we'd all like it as reference during our next review :)
>>
>
> I googled on this a bit as I was interested, I think in Ontario it
> depends on what "type" of job you do. The category that I am guessing
> most ppl on the list are in would be IT Professional which is "Not
> Covered" in regards to overtime. Some ppl on the list may be in the
> other two Professionals category which some of "Covered" and some are
> "Not Covered".
>
> http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/factsheets/fs_covered.html
>
>
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