is GPL3 a sign of the beast?

Zbigniew Koziol softquake-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Wed Feb 14 03:57:43 UTC 2007


I wish others around woke up. It is already, though, somewhat late.

With you - I may discuss since now on strictly technical issues, only.

zb.

On Tuesday 13 February 2007 22:45, Colin McGregor wrote:
> --- Zbigniew Koziol <softquake-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Our freedoms is what concerns me most.
> >
> > You say that Stallman will do things in the "right"
> > way.
> >
> > I am supposed to believe that. I would like to.
> >
> > Are we not however on an edge?
>
> Yes and no. Define free? For Stallman the answer is
> free means you can get the source code and do what you
> want with that source code, all other issues are
> secondary (including cost, so Stallman doesn't object
> to someone changing $$$ for a piece of code).
>
> > If kernel development splits, I will go to Torvalds.
> > The main reason I use
> > Linux is because I love freedom.
>
> Well, you seem to assume there must be just one
> kernel, at the risk of starting an argument let me ask
> (even through I don't want to hear answers):
>
> - What is the best editor, vi or emacs?
> - What is the best desktop, Gnome or KDE?
> - Which is the best word processor, OpenOffice or
> AbiWord?
>
> and so on it goes. A year from now we MIGHT be asking:
>
> - What is the best GPL'ed OS, GNU/Linux or Solaris?
>
> Two years from now (after the destruction in lawsuits
> of a certain firm) we MIGHT be asking:
>
> - What is the best GPL'ed OS, GNU/Linux, Solaris, or
> Novell/IBM/Red Hat/Autozone/DaimlerChrysler Unixware?
>
> then sitting back and toasting marshmallows on the
> resulting flame war :-) . Regardless, there can be
> more than one legitimate answer to the question "What
> is the best...".
>
> My view is I am very happy where I am with GNU/Linux,
> but if (BIG IF) someone comes up with something
> better, I will consider switching...
>
>
> Colin McGregor
>
> > zb.
> >
> > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 20:58, Colin McGregor
> >
> > wrote:
> > > --- Zbigniew Koziol <softquake-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > Or, is Stallman going to sacrifice our freedom
> >
> > for
> >
> > > > support from Sun?
> > > >
> > > > A good introduction:
> > > >
> > > > 	http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=257
> > > >
> > > > zb.
> > >
> > > No, Stallman is going to stick to his guns and
> >
> > push
> >
> > > HARD for his vision on FREE software (free as in
> >
> > free
> >
> > > speech, not necessarily free as beer). Stallman
> >
> > will
> >
> > > play ball with anyone who meets his standards, be
> >
> > it
> >
> > > GNU/Linux or someone else...
> > >
> > > I attended a talk by Richard Stallman in 1989, and
> >
> > the
> >
> > > one thing that I really came away with was he
> >
> > missed
> >
> > > his calling as a religious prophet. In December
> >
> > 2006 I
> >
> > > exchanged e-mails with Stallman doing an interview
> >
> > for
> >
> > > the now dead Tux Magazine, and it seems he has not
> > > changed in any signifigant degree in 17 years. For
> > > Stallman there is his way, the right way and there
> >
> > is
> >
> > > total @#$% evil, with nothing in between.
> > >
> > > So, this isn't a betrayal for Stallman, he has
> >
> > always
> >
> > > been clear where he stood, and like him or hate
> >
> > him
> >
> > > (and I have mixed feelings, I think every field
> >
> > needs
> >
> > > one (but only one) serious ideologue, and Stallman
> > > fits the bill for free software...).
> > >
> > > Colin McGregor
>
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