Fwd: Ubuntu Ice House: Repeat Event Today!

Zbigniew Koziol softquake-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Thu Feb 8 03:22:46 UTC 2007


On Wednesday 07 February 2007 22:01, JoeHill wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:55:22 -0500
>
> Zbigniew Koziol got an infinite number of monkeys to type out:
> > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 19:07, John Macdonald wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 05:38:53PM -0500, James Knott wrote:
> > > > John Macdonald wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:57:08PM -0500, Zbigniew Koziol wrote:
> > > > >> Schrodinger is a something. I am 10 years after doing physics but
> > > > >> I can not forget Schrodinger equation. Now, I have Schrodinger's
> > > > >> cats around! They are with me all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Schrodinger's cats would both be with you all the time
> > > > > and not with you ever.
> > > >
> > > > How much cat food would you need?  ;-)
> > >
> > > A lot.  The cats would always be there when the food was
> > > available and not there when it isn't.
> >
> > Even a worser scenario is possible. If cats behave like bosons, they may
> > undergo a quantum phase transition and condense into Bose-Einstein state.
>
> LOL! Aaaaah, now this is a fun thread again...
>
> > Such a state would attract other cats around. It is however an
> > interesting analogy. Here the food plays a role of an interaction that
> > actually does not occour between cats directely, however, that
> > interaction is mediated by the presence of food. In other words, food
> > plays a role of, let say, of interaction like between phonons and
> > electrons. And while electrons repulse each other, in certain situations
> > they can bind together into Cooper pairs and create a superconductive
> > state.
>
> And it's been bloody cold enough in my damn basement to keep them like
> that. Would superconductivity negate the hellacious hatred that cats seem
> to have for each other though?

Not superconductivity per se. The hatred would be negated by food that 
attracts each of them. They start to bahave like they liked each other. For 
instance they start to run after each other around the food, in a circle. 
Forming in that way a Cooper pair. 

Other cats, to be able to participate in this game, have no choice but to 
enter the same race, one after another, around the same food. In that way 
these "Cooper pairs" condense into a superfluid state. They all start to 
behave like one. All pairs of cats, it looks like, attract each other. The 
catastrophe is unavoidable. They are going likely to pass a quantum phase 
transition. Become one entity.

I do not think that penguins would behave differently in a similar situation, 
forming possibly a quantum macroscopic super-penguin, or just a super-Linux, 
a new state of virtual matter.

zb.

> > Better do not feed these cats at all.. Food besides can attract dogs as
> > well. I would prefer not to see dogs condensed into a superfluid state...
> > They would all behave like one. They would flow through the windows,
> > doors, regardles of gravitation. They could flow out through chimney, all
> > of them behaving like one super-dog.
>
> A dog able to run on walls like Neo? No thanks.
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