new Rogers terms of service

Alex Beamish talexb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Thu Feb 1 18:28:34 UTC 2007


On 1/30/07, D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> I just got a new "terms of service" from Rogers.  It is now unified to
> cover all Rogers services.  Things that I noted in my first quick
> glance.  This document doesn't seem to be online.
>
> Definition:
>
>     "Equipment" means any device, equipment or hardware used to
>     access the Services or used in conjunction with the Services,
>     including any SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card.
>
> This definition catches things I own, not just Rogers' property.
> That makes a lot of things very wrong in the sequel.


This doesn't sound like a bad thing.

    14.  You may not use the Services for anything other than your own
>     personal use. You may not resell the Services, receive any charge or
>     benefit for the use of the Services or provide internet access or any
>     other feature of the Services to any third party.  You may not share
>     or transfer your Services without our express consent.
>
> a. the internet is about sharing.  Is a web server sharing my Service
> when it sends a message to me??


No, but if you re-sell web services to someone, and those services are being
provided by Rogers through your account, then I imagine you'll be liable.

b. does that mean that the rest of my household (family) cannot use the
> internet?


You family's use of the Internet connection probably falls under the
umbrella of 'your own personal use'.

Summary: I think that this is overreaching.


Nah, it's just lawyers earning their salaries.

    19.  ... We may also access or preserve content or information to
>     comply with legal process in Canada or foreign jurisdictions, ...
>
> Notice the word "foreign".  This is inappropriate and unacceptible.


Unless the CIA gets involved in something that you're doing, I wouldn't
worry about it.

    51. [WRT Television Services] Only one television or FM receiver may be
>     attached to any outlet. ...
>
> Does this prohibit VCRs, PVRs, etc?


The fragment you listed doesn't refer to those devices, so I'd interpret
that as meaning that there are no limits.

And no, I am not a lawyer. ;)

-- 
Alex Beamish
Toronto, Ontario
aka talexb
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