Rogers and BitTorrent: another datapoint

[Matthew Godycki]

I hate to say this, but it sounds like all these problems would have been solved 
by consulting some documentation.  As an aside, why is it stupid to define a 
class (template for an object) in an OO language?  If that's the case, then defining
a procedure in a procedural language is equally stupid.

As an aside, Java as a language is actually very stable.  All the various revisions
have to do more with the additional packages evolving, moreso than the language
itself.  That in itself is a whole other issue, SUN seems inept at keeping the
language and libraries separate from one another.

Cheers,
-Matthew

----- Original Message ----
From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys at public.gmane.org>
To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:30:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Rogers and BitTorrent: another datapoint

On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:53:02PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:48:11 -0400
> Lennart Sorensen got an infinite number of monkeys to type out:
> 
> > I won't deal with java stuff.
> 
> Heh, missed that. Sometimes, from talking to people, I get this impression the
> only people who really like Java are Java programmers... :DD

My wife is currently learning java in one of her courses.  Amazingly it
took a while to figure this out:

E:\> java hello.java
some error message making no sense about can't find some string thingy.

Investigate very simple program again.  Try many things and eventualyl
go.  Hmm, should it be compiled first?

E:\> javac hello.java
can't find that.  Go fix stupid path that is never right on windows it
seems.  There is a reason all programs go in one place, with their data
files off somewhere else.  Stupid windows design.  And DJB thinks this
layout is a good idea?  <oops off topic rant there>

Add to path.
E:\> javac hello.java
E:\> java hello.class
Same error as when going hava hello.java
Hmm, how odd.
Many google searches later.  Oh, java is stupid!
E:\> java hello
Hello World!
E:\>

Why the heck is it an error to specify the full filename?  And why do
you have to define a class in order to write hello world or anything
else for that matter?  What a stupid language.

Then there are the interesting errors when you try to use a java library
with a version of java older than it was compiled with.  Maybe they
should have made it easy to tell what version of java is requried for a
certain java file, but I haven't found one yet.  And how many versions
of java does it take before they decide the language works?  Of course
lately it seems C++ is on a quest to be like java and now perfectly
valid c++ programs are considered invalid by modern c++ compilers unless
you explicitly ask them to support old syntax.  Sometimes I actually
start to think perl isn't so bad. :)

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