EM64T and linux

[Joseph Kubik]

On Friday 28 April 2006 16:57, Andrew Hammond wrote:
> HP sells a solid quad Opteron box, and if you don't require quad, the
> list grows from there. But, as I said before, if you don't _need_ 64
> bit, why bother?
>

I have some personal reservations about some of the Quad AMD HP servers. If 
you are evaluating servers, I'd be happy to comment offline or in person.

I have seen far less problem with the IBM AMD based systems.
-Joseph-

> Since you haven't said anything about what you plan to do with this
> box, it'd be silly to comment further.
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> On 28-Apr-06, at 15:53, Phillip Qin wrote:
> > But all the servers Dell offers use the EM64T. I have no choice.
> > The port does say “The port consists of kernels for all AMD 64bit
> > CPUs with AMD64 extension and all Intel CPUs with EM64T extension,
> > and a common 64bit userspace.”.
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> > From: owner-tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org [mailto:owner-tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> > Andrew Hammond
> > Sent: April 28, 2006 3:38 PM
> > To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org
> > Subject: Re: [TLUG]: EM64T and linux
> >
> > On 28-Apr-06, at 13:35, Phillip Qin wrote:
> >> It says "compilation time optimization uses a common base for
> >> AMD64/EM64T instead of legacy i386 cruft" but doesn't mention
> >> anything else about the EM64T. I am not familiar with the new 64-
> >> bit technology but I will give it a try.
> >
> > In a hacking environment, cool. But for production, if you don't
> > _need_ 64 bit, why deal with the headaches?
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> > If you do need 64 bit, don't buy a Xeon to run it on.
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> > Drew
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org [mailto:owner-tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> > Christopher Browne
> > Sent: April 28, 2006 1:27 PM
> > To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org
> > Subject: Re: [TLUG]: EM64T and linux
> >
> > On 4/28/06, Phillip Qin <Phillip.Qin-szgMhqSEIEG+XT7JhA+gdA at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > I know I shall post it to debian's user list. But does anyone
> >
> > know whether
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> > > Debian 3.0 woody supports Intel EM64T architecture? I am trying
> >
> > to order a
> >
> > > server. But Dell only ships Xeon with EM64T architecture.
> >
> > Do you want to run it as a 32 bit system?  Or 64 bit?
> >
> > If you run in 32 bit mode, then it shouldn't present any particularly
> > special problems.
> >
> > It may be more interesting in 64 bit mode, as Debian/AMD-64 has been
> > released recently...
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/
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