Question about plotting graphs in Gnumeric

[Christopher Browne]

On 3/19/06, Walter Dnes <waltdnes-SLHPyeZ9y/tg9hUCZPvPmw at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 11:33:37AM -0500, Howard Gibson wrote
>
> > Try Open Office.  OO Reproduces Word's obfuscated chart routine, but
> > eventually, you will get the job done.
>
>   Anything but OO.  Last time I looked at OO, it faithfully emulated MS
> Office's bloat.  Between...
>   - the bloated OO code itself
>   - the hard-coded Java dependancy
>   - the need for PAM-headers (WHY ?!?!?) if attampting to build from
>     source tarball
>
> ...I'm looking at well over a gigabyte of garbage.  If we're going to
> complain about MS trying to ram its "standards" down our throats, at
> least let's be even-handed and apply the same treatment to Sun and its
> Java-mania.

I can't agree on the "hard-coded Java dependancy."  I have had 1.1
installed on various systems which have NO Java on them, and the one
place I have 1.2, I also don't have Java, at least, not in a place
where OO.o would detect it.

I do, however, agree that there's a lot of bloat to it.

It has much the same physical markup disease that MSFT-generated HTML
has, where you almost have per-word XML tagging that is merely marking
the same attributes over and over again.  Usually what it marks is
that you're using the default font in the default size for this
paragraph just as you did in the previous 15 paragraphs.  But that, of
course, involves a huge amount of gratuitous verbosity.

There seem to be two places where Java *is* needed (there may be more;
these are the ones I know of):

1.  DBMS support needs Java for JDBC and such;

2.  The thing that could be a solution to the "physical markup
disease" is the ability to import/export DocBook; that is evidently
written in Java...
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