Novell will (continue to) support KDE after all

ted leslie tleslie-RBVUpeUoHUc at
Wed Nov 16 00:42:30 UTC 2005

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:44:15 -0500
Christopher Browne <cbbrowne-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at> wrote:

> On 11/15/05, ted leslie <tleslie-RBVUpeUoHUc at> wrote:
> > I love it if they tried to bring the two together.
> I hate to say this, but that's the classic clueless response.
> They are implemented in different languages, with very different
> designs, and even attempting to "fold them together" is certain to be
> fruitless.
> At the very simplest level:
>  - The KDE folk are fans of C++; they *like* the features it provides them;
>  - Miguel de Icarza's distaste for C++ is pretty much the "stuff of legend"
> They have *extremely different* design positions.
> I have generally preferred the design choices taken by the GNOME
> people, although the implementations have far too oft disappointed me
> thoroughly.
> > I have used KDE 99% of my linux life, only checking out GNOME for
> > Mono (as its got native support).
> > KDE has power, Gnome is the best bet to win over joe-user-public on
> > using linux for the first time,
> > but surely they could look at merging the two and making one able to pull from both
> > in what they need for a custom desktop?
> No, a useless idea, because the code isn't compatible.  It isn't
> written in the same language.  The developers don't think the same
> way.
> > and they are both supposed to be supporting opendesktop standards anyways ..
> > i guess the down size it it makes for quite a large install to wrap the two together,
> > but thats becoming almost a mute point with all the HD/RAM space for cheap these days.
> I'd consider it a mostly moot point.  Yes, indeed, disk space is
> pretty cheap.  "Enough" memory is always more than you have, mind
> you...
> The useful thing that we *do* see is that GNOME and KDE try some new
> techniques and develop new facilities, some of which are useful. 
> Those that are useless get dropped, over time, and those that aren't
> get reimplemented by the other system.  By having two projects, they
> can try riskier things as "losing" isn't so much an utter disaster.

Ah thats a very good point about risker.

As for the issue of not in the same language,
90% of the time is design, testing, re-doing, learning, etc, the 10% time is in real final coding, 
who cares, coding is never the issue, not if you really want to get it done.
C# and C++ call wrappers galour anyways. Even in different languages, peice could co-exist, they do


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