jobs in Linux / IT

[Christopher Charles]

Employment SUCKS big time in Canada!

Age discrimination rules! Workplaces are full of young
people!

If you are not young and not white you definitely will
not fit in!

Chris



--- billt-lxSQFCZeNF4 at public.gmane.org wrote:

> I generally agree with Chris on this topic, but I
> have several things to add.
> 
> 1) Many jobs that require that level of 'fit' are
> not identified as such and it is only found out
> after the fact. This causes many problems that could
> be avoided before they happen.
> 
> 2) Many companies treat people as field replacable
> units (FRUs) but are annoyed when they need to
> replace those people. If you are creating a tribe
> mentality you should also doing things to foster
> that tribe mentality.
> 
> 3) Companies need to be realistic about their
> requirements. If you want 24x7 uptime, then hire
> enough people to provide it and don't expect people
> to give up there free time (even if paid for) for
> the sake of that goal.
> 
> Bill
> 
> > > and more of "will the candidate fit in" with the
> current tribe.
> > 
> > There can be occasions when things get
> particularly, erm, "tribal,"
> > where it is actually pretty important whether or
> not the candidate
> > will "fit."
> > 
> > I have watched candidates *not* fit, and *not*
> work, even though there
> > was reasonably considered care in their selection.
> > 
> > In the cases I particularly have in mind (and some
> might feel
> > telepathic about this ;-)), inability to fit into
> the "current tribe"
> > was in truth a severe loss because that
> specifically hindered
> > learning.  They weren't already experts; they
> needed to learn from the
> > people around them.  Failure to learn prevented
> them from becoming
> > competent.
> > 
> > This can be true in any kind of environment where
> it is unlikely that
> > people will come in as "experts."
> > 
> > In a "high availability" context, there is another
> aspect to this,
> > namely that if HA is needful, you can NOT have a
> multiplicity of kinds
> > of "operational doctrines" in play.
> > 
> > Right or wrong, an organization needs a
> well-defined set of
> > "operational doctrines" otherwise anyone can do
> anything and you no
> > longer have systems capable of being kept running
> at a high pace 24
> > hours a day, 365 days a year.  Someone who doesn't
> "fit with the
> > tribe" is, ipso facto, a liability to the goal of
> "24x365", whether
> > they're nice, smart, or have good ideas.  If
> they're not "with the
> > tribe," then they are injuring the capability of
> running those systems
> > 24x365.
> > 
> > That's not the entirety of all industry, but I'd
> hazard the guess that
> > this is likely true for all of the cases where you
> heard people
> > saying, last Tuesday, that they were having
> trouble finding the kind
> > of people they need.
> > 
> > The guys running a financial trading floor don't
> need cowboys coming
> > in with the attitude of "Oh, let's replace that
> with some Fedora Core
> > N machines."  They're not interested in how much
> faster KDE may run on
> > Slackware, and bringing up Gentoo as anything
> other than a joke likely
> > won't fit in there.
> > --
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> > "The true  measure of a  man is how he treats 
> someone who can  do him
> > absolutely no good." -- Samuel Johnson,
> lexicographer (1709-1784)
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