A short list of things I want out of TLUG

Sy sy1235-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org
Tue Apr 26 14:06:36 UTC 2005


It's really frustrating that hotkeys aren't consistant.. I did a
control-r to "re-do" and it nuked my message in reloading the page. 
Of course, it's.. control-y ("ry-do"?).. which for me still means
"delete this line".  Sigh.. take two!  I'm using a bloody text editor
from now on.



On 4/26/05, psema4 <psema4-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 4/22/05, Sy <sy1235-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Appearance looks to be an unfortunate by-product of mendacity.
> (PegaSoft has some information on this here:
> http://www.pegasoft.ca/resources/Linux_Startup/book.html  Read it last
> week and was suprised once again at "the firepower" available through
> TLUG.  Not complete, but a good read I thought.)

This company has been on my radar for some time, and I've never known
why.. I'll take a look at this article for sure.


> Probably, there exists more than a few companies don't want to
> "advertise the fact" that open source is the way to go.  Might prove
> detrimental in internal or b2b politics.

It's hard to communicate that open source is the right choice for
moral reasons.. or that it simply "feels good".  The culture of
business is so utterly alien it's freaky.. I'm sure that's why it's
sometimes mistaken as evil.


> There are lots of folks out there who didn't understand open source
> last year.  It's an evolutionary thing.  As the "common understanding"
> spreads, younger generations will carry it with them into the
> corporate world and carry it up the ladder.
> 
> That's gunna take a while, especially here in North America where
> mendacity has held sway for quite a while.  Other countries are
> figuring it out.

I can still see not insignificant corrupting influences and a slew of
nasty tricks by the powers in place.  I see this entire open source
thing as one big threat to a well-entrenched culture.

This isn't even an "open source" versus "closed source" battle of
philosophies.. this is a "old money" (think founding technologies)
versus "new money" (think dotcom) versus those "free love hippy tree
hugging software developers". ;)

There is also a significant rumbling of a clash of fundamental
qualities of culture.. the culture that persued slavery and
monopolies, the culture that swallows competition and technologies,
the culture that invents just to patent --> and this new culture, that
strives towards a kind of evenly-applied ethics and longevity.


> > My gut tells me that the best thing to do is look at the models which
> > others have used.  My brain tells me to learn from others and adapt
> > their models to our needs.  What I really want to do is kidnap some
> > organizers from other groups..  =)
> 
> lol at the kidnapping.  Asking them might be a good idea.  The rest
> I'd agree with.

This was a nod at a book I recently read, where the plot was driven
around a capable project manager who was kidnapped to help a
struggling new government.  The Deadline -- by Tom DeMarco[1] 
Strangely, I wouldn't think it to be particularly notible but I've
found a couple of times when it has been.  =/


> It's hard to follow your list and analysis of the 5 items.  As with
> the system administrator thread, you've managed to hit the nail on the
> head.  (At least for me.)

Ya win some, ya lose some.  =)

I agree.. I knew I was nodding off at the end of that post.  I find
that I can write very well.. but the quality usually drops off 2/3rds
in.  I get very muddled in my thoughts.  I'm working on writing just
that 2/3rds and then stopping, but I never feel "done".  The wiki
thing is helping me learn to write better.. I write 2/3rds, then come
back later and write another 2/3rds.. then eventually it'll be good
enough for me.

I keep wanting posts to be re-editable.. it's wierd.  =)


[1] ISBN 0-932633-34-X


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