Libranet 3.0 out

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 12:35:17PM -0400, dan sinclair wrote:
> Everyone always seems to harp on gentoo. I use gentoo, and no, I don't care about what config flags its using. The base is good enough for me.
> 
> So, why not Debian? Well, I started on RedHat, then tried Debian, but Debian was sufficiently _not_ redhat that I couldn't find anything. I tried LSF, but got bogged down with glib compile errors. I eventually ended on gentoo. It puts stuff where I expect them from a RedHat perspective, and emerge is simple to use. I've only had issues from portage after I'd sufficiently messed up my system that it didn't know what was actually installed.

When I switched from Redhat to Debian, I was open minded and took the
time to find where everything was on Debian, and overall I came to find
Debian more consistent with it's placements (no wonder given they have
policies on where everything should go based on what it is).  I can't
imagine going back to redhat anymore.  Redhat would move things between
releases quite often.  Debian doesn't seem to do that.

> The other issue is that debians stable is always behind, so if I want to use new er stuff I have to switch to unstable. I don't have to deal with that with gentoo. Portage usually has the lastest crap and I can just install it. No need to fiddle with the config (and yes, I realize you only have to do it once. But thats not the point).

Well when Debian 3.0 was release, the software in it was quite up to
date and everyone was so happy about it since it was so much newer than
everything in 2.2.  So why is it all of a sudden not good enough
anymore?  Why does your server need apache2?  Many people still don't
think it's reliable enough for production ues.  You can always install a
backport (or make a backport) if you really need a newer version of
something.  I have done so lots of times myself.  I know what works in
3.0 stays working and the only stuff that changes is what I want to have
changed.  How many IT people were annoyed at the constant stream of
updated redhat kept releasing (before suddenly deciding no updated of
redhat was a better idea and discontinued it).

> So, although you may not like it, gentoo isn't just about getting the most optmized system, or the best set of compile flags.

Well that's the main argument people have for it (and certainly the
worst one given I don't believe it at all based on personaly experience
compiling stuff from source).  The init scripts system someone else
described on the other hand does sound rather nice.  Someone should
package that for Debian. :)

Lennart Sorensen
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