A model of IP and patent sharing from commercial entities to produce free and open standards

Peter L. Peres plp-ysDPMY98cNQDDBjDh4tngg at public.gmane.org
Sat Oct 18 10:33:59 UTC 2003


On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:08:25AM +0200, Peter L. Peres wrote:
> > M$, $ony, $amsung, ... all the usual culprits. Expect their pda's phones
> > and other devices not to be compatible ... and think twice before buying ?
>
> Microsoft is there, as is Nokia, Ericson, Alcatel, along with some of the
> companies that make the web software for many cellphones.

Funny they were not in the list when I looked ? (the list with in the imm
page).  Apropos being there does not seem to be a guaratee adherence to
the standards. Did you try to run a w3c html validator against m$ wizard
generated html code ? F.ex. Opera is a member and I use the Opera browser
but the Opera browser has some trouble with some sites generated for (by)
m$ tools. Yet you say M$ is also a member ... so it can ambrace and extend
the standards better ?

Just as an aside, I discovered that my WAP phone does not render the <hr>
tag and freezes with a page error (unspecified - no floating point unit in
this phone apparently - M$ mobile exploder) but the xml wml renderer in
the Opera browser renders it just fine. My cell provider's web/wml proxy
renders <hr> as '----' which means it knows about this. And this is just
the tip of the iceberg. I will try out a Nokia and Samsung phone later.

Peter
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