SCO has valid case

Justin Zygmont jzygmont-tEQKYFGiemxAYG7eUwYNkWD2FQJk+8+b at public.gmane.org
Tue Nov 4 19:49:52 UTC 2003


the whole thing is just a letigatal mess, and it's just going to get 
worse.  After what happened with the DR-DOS lawsuit, i'd say it's looking 
a lot like the same thing.  Too bad its going to be dragging on and on for 
years.


On 23 Aug 2003, Rick Tomaschuk wrote:

> At the briefing SCO claimed copyright and trademark ownership of the
> UNIX name. As for ties to Microsoft going back many years SCO referred
> to these claims as laughable and I would be skeptical of SCO's
> involvement and any sort of stock sell off given the fallout from
> Enron, Tyco, Martha etc. Unix coming from mixed origins (Berkeley)is
> based on confidential agreements and otherwise with AT&T to rewrite code. 
> 
> While I may not be 100% right on with every tiny tid-bit since I have
> better things to do than filter through every line of every article
> ever written on the subject I'm confident in the accuracy of the bulk
> of what I'm saying since I've had the opportunity to get answers
> directly from SCO's CEO and other CEO's and officers who seem to know
> what they are talking about. 
> 
> I'm just a low level partner like many others I've met at TLUG
> meetings. If you are as informed as you think you are we could have
> used you in Las Vegas this week. Why were'nt you there? The trip cost
> peanuts compared to the long term value it offered. What on earth is
> wrong with a free market? Our whole economy is based on a free market.
> The world is moving toward globalization. The GPL is a welcome
> addition to our world but we still need to maintain other options. IMHO
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:49:51 -0400, Lloyd D Budd
> <lloyd-fEEwcc3XMu8jODpR/OX0VQ at public.gmane.org> wrote :
> 
> > On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 17:59, Rick Tomaschuk may have wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > My understanding is that SCO owns copyrights and trademarks for 
> > > UNIX SYSTEM V. 
> > Err...but it is debatable whether they own the trademark to UNIX.  IBM
> > had a special contractually arrangement with AT&T.  The other UNIX(s)
> > that IBM bought have not had their agreements released.
> > 
> > > Most other (nearly all) UNIXes are
> > > based upon licences from SYSTEM V (AT&T) so SCO is at the root of the
> > > UNIX tree.
> > Most?  Many UNIX seem to be from mixed origin.
> > 
> > It is not clear to me how relevant other item is, but there is a *huge*
> > amount of interesting information on the net related to this.
> > 
> > 
> > > As for reporters and their articles I've read and will continue to
> read all I
> > > can find.
> > Rick, prior to the briefing where you well versed on the information
> > available?
> > 
> > I find it difficult to believe that you have read everything that you
> > can find.  Otherwise, I do not know how you could suggest:  
> > > MY UNDERSTANDING is that it is not SCO's intention to undermine the
> > > Linux effort but rather to survive as a "for profit" company in a free
> > > market. 
> > 
> > profit> some have suggested that there has been stock sell off of
> > interesting quantity
> > 
> > free market> cringe 
> > 
> > 
> > If you are genuinely interested, it appears there is a lot of material
> > available that you might not have read thoroughly.  slashdot is a good
> > place to start as they provide links to pretty much all of the articles
> > I was aware of before I got bored of the topic after many, many articles
> > over many, many days,
> > Lloyd
> > 
> > 
> > P.S. This is unlikely be resolved any year soon.
> > 
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