OOP, Was: C considered harmful: was Debian attacker may have used new exploit

Taavi Burns taavi-LbuTpDkqzNzXI80/IeQp7B2eb7JE58TQ at public.gmane.org
Thu Dec 4 21:29:33 UTC 2003

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:06:08PM +0200, Peter L. Peres wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Greg Franks wrote:
> > >>>>> "Marcus" == Marcus Brubaker <marcus.brubaker-H217xnMUJC0sA/PxXw9srA at public.gmane.org> writes:
> >     Marcus> To each their own opinion but if you want to do OOP then
> >     Marcus> there really isn't a better language out there than Java.
> >
> > You forgot Smalltalk.  Everything is an object, even integers.
> Yes, and the processing overhead for an addition is about the same as for
> a square root extraction.

Then have a look at Objective-C.  It's been used on a couple of platforms (most
notable NeXT and OSX, which are debatably the same thing), has lower overhead
than Java, and strikes a nice medium between C++ objects and C simplicity.

And hey, GCC supports it, so you already have the tools at hand.


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