<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>There's always the .pizza domain now. Joes.pizza is not available but variations like nycJoes.pizza for $20 tho I think the renewal will be way more. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Gotta think renewal price, not an deal for only the first year, unless you are planning it to be disposable.</div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Jul 25, 2024, at 3:56 PM, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="qt-gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);">On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 12:03 PM Karen Lewellen via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">talk@gtalug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div> <br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>I have a personal website, that I originally set up using my name, <br></div><div> instead of the name of my production company which is g. a. f. <br></div><div> Entertainment. I do have the domain <a href="http://gafentertainment.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gafentertainment.com</a> but it is not <br></div><div> hosted anywhere.<br></div><div> Lewellen is welsh, and there are several different spellings.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">All of the Welsh Llewllyns I know (a few, from my wife's history) have four Ls and a Y in their spelling.<br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">(But then I'm not one to talk. There are more Leibowitz's than Leibovitch's out there, but they all trace the same Romanian roots.)<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">I got <a href="http://leibovitch.ca">leibovitch.ca</a> and <a href="http://evanleibovitch.com">evanleibovitch.com</a> ages ago but have never really used them. The latter I may keep for defensive purposes just in case I really piss someone off; I'm getting old but there's still time.<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">A surprising number of domains are unused and just kept for defensive purposes (ie, I won't use it but I don't want anyone else to have it either).<br></div></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>Imagine my <span class="qt-gmail_default" style="color:rgb(11, 83, 148);"><span class="font" style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;"> </span></span>surprise though learning there is another karen lewellen.<br></div><div> My own site being<br></div><div> <a href="http://www.karenlewellen.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.karenlewellen.com</a><br></div><div> Meant the other person ended up creating <a href="http://itskarenlewellen.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">itskarenlewellen.com</a> instead.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">Or she could have done <a href="http://karenlewellen.ca">karenlewellen.ca</a> (if she was Canadian), <a href="http://karenlewellen.co.uk">karenlewellen.co.uk</a> (if British), <a href="http://karenlelellen.org">karenlelellen.org</a> or karenlewellen.something-else<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">That's the whole point of the new TLDs, dot-com doesn't have to be the make-or-break TLD anymore (though it is still the preferred default).<br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">My solution these days to unavailable first-choice domains is to add punctuation, for instance <a href="http://karen-lewellen.com">karen-lewellen.com</a> is available and works fine.<br></div></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">Do not get me started on the gmail problems, I still get her stuff<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">That's the biggest flaw of domains versus search. Search engines can add context such as location.<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">There is only one <a href="http://joespizza.com">joespizza.com</a> in the world and it's in Los Angeles. The most famous Joe's Pizza had to settle for <a href="http://joespizzanyc.com">joespizzanyc.com</a> because the California place registered first.<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">But searching "Joe's Pizza near me" will almost always come up with something more useful wherever you are, when used here offering one in Brampton (<a href="http://joesbigpizza.ca">joesbigpizza.ca</a>)<br></div><div> <br></div></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>When the nonprofit organization I worked for first chose a name the idea <br></div><div> was to hype the name of our flagship radio series, Curtain Up!<br></div><div> As we distributed Curtain Up! our founder decided curtain up distribution <br></div><div> was a fine name..but this was before we had a web presence.<br></div><div> giving my work email address is quite a dance, our site is<br></div><div> <a href="http://www.curtainupdistribution.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.curtainupdistribution.org</a><br></div><div> ahem.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">Domain names are the least of this organization's problems, as a casual search reveals the term "curtain up" is used in major contexts within the London and Broadway theatre scenes.<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">Good and distinct naming for an organization is way more off-topic and out of scope than this thread has already evolved. Any domain problems here are symptoms and not causes.<br></div></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>My point is that there really can be far more than vanity in a domain <br></div><div> name, especially when you want to be found, and fund raise, and so forth.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">You're confusing domain names with corporate identity.<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">A domain name is just a tool, not the identity, except for those few and diminishing companies whose domain name IS the company name (such as "<a href="http://pets.com">pets.com</a>").<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">Creating a functional corporate identity, which includes but is not limited to branding, is a much bigger deal than the domain name chosen.<br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;color:rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="qt-gmail_default">- Evan<br></div></div><div><br></div></div><div>---<br></div><div>Post to this mailing list <a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">talk@gtalug.org</a><br></div><div>Unsubscribe from this mailing list <a href="https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk">https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></body></html>