<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>I read some of the threads from the first email where the devs are discussing the energy legislation that motivated this decision. The main word of the law is posted here: <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/commit/2fdb48fa3333638cee889b8bb80dc1d2b65aaa4a">https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/commit/2fdb48fa3333638cee889b8bb80dc1d2b65aaa4a</a> (The discussion seemed to suggest that desktops might not have the same requirements as laptops but idk the context for that; + there are multiple jurisdictions to comply with.)<br></div><div><br></div><div>That said, looks that they're exceeding the requirements by a long shot. The wording uses language like "<b>default</b> period of time...shall not exceed 20 minutes" and "<b>offer</b> a power management function". Nothing to prohibit change of setting by user. Hopefully they will get around to adding it in someplace. It's bad to have it hidden in a text file. Speaking for myself, I anticipate that I would probably end up totally disabling the power management if it was annoying to adjust. The first time I encountered a situation where it was in my way, I would find out how to turn it off, then immediately forget I could turn it back on. If it's in a panel/widget somewhere you can temporarily extend the allowance when needed. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Does wake on lan work in this case? I have almost used it a couple times but never quite needed it. If so, maybe the solution is to have a second device like your phone or router send a packet every 14 (or 16?) minutes. If you have 2 laptops/desktops with the same problem you could stagger to WOL back and forth every 7 minutes. Problem solved. <br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sat, Sep 2, 2023, at 11:40 AM, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div>On 9/2/23 04:50, BCLUG via talk wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div>> D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote on 2023-09-01 05:54:<br></div><div>><br></div><div>>> Is there really no way to tweak this in the GUI?<br></div><div>>><br></div><div>>> There is a way. A user can change what GNOME does when they are <br></div><div>>> logged in<br></div><div>>><br></div><div>>> settings: Power: (Power Saving Options) Automatic Suspend: off<br></div><div>><br></div><div>>> But this has no effect on GDM (the login screen)<br></div><div>>> or any other user.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>>> I want a system-wide setting.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>There may be a don't start screensaver" setting, for people doing <br></div><div>presentations. I remember hunting one down many moons ago, for a talk. <br></div><div>It let me close the lid and still run a projector.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--dave<br></div><div><br></div><div>---<br></div><div>Post to this mailing list <a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">talk@gtalug.org</a><br></div><div>Unsubscribe from this mailing list <a href="https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk">https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>