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<p>As Honda once said in an owner's manual, "engine does not contain any service parts".
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<p>I think you were supposed to throw the bike away when the oil got dirty (;-)</p>
<p>--dave<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/19/22 21:10, Don Tai via talk wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That is such terrible design. They could have put the CMOS battery anywhere, like somewhere serviceable.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 19:58, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk@gtalug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Almost all PCs have settings that they want to keep while the computer is <br>
off or even unplugged. Ones that they don't want to keep on disk. Things <br>
you set up from the firmware setup screen.<br>
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Furthermore, they have a realtime clock that runs when the machine is <br>
turned off or unplugged.<br>
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These are all powered by a lithium coin cell.<br>
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Eventually, that battery runs down and you have to replace it. Five or <br>
ten years of lifetime seems normal.<br>
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When it runs down, the computer will forget the date, time, and all its <br>
setting when it is turned off. This is annoying: every time you start up <br>
you have to fill in the time and other settings.<br>
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Luckily, for most computers it is easy to replace: it is in a socket in <br>
the motherboard. The battery can be sourced from Dollarama or Amazon for <br>
a buck or two. Just get the size right.<br>
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For (some? all?) notebooks the coin cell battery isn't used if there is a <br>
charge in the main battery. So you may not notice that the coin cell <br>
battery is failing.<br>
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I flattened my notebook's main battery somehow (left it sleeping for a <br>
week?). When I powered it on, it had no idea of the time nor what to <br>
boot.<br>
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Upon investigation, I find that I have to completely disassemble my <br>
computer to replace the battery! They placed it on the top of the main <br>
board whereas access is to the bottom. If you care, you can read page 50 <br>
of <br>
<<a href="https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/xps-15-9560-laptop_setup-guide_en-us.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/xps-15-9560-laptop_setup-guide_en-us.pdf</a>><br>
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It looks as if I will need some new thermal grease since I have to remove <br>
the heat sink from the processor. And the coin cell assembly is not <br>
generic -- no Dollarama battery.<br>
<<a href="https://www.amazon.ca/LeFix-Replacement-Battery-Connector-Precision/dp/B082G35D4R/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.amazon.ca/LeFix-Replacement-Battery-Connector-Precision/dp/B082G35D4R/</a>><br>
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