<div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 11:57 AM Howard Gibson via talk, <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk@gtalug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:46:00 -0400<br>
Evan Leibovitch via talk <<a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@gtalug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ... hopefully, not for long.<br>
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Evan,<br>
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   Some useful and interesting references...<br>
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   <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman</a><br>
   <a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman</a><br>
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   Rational Wiki is interesting, since it is opinionated as all hell.  Wikipedia is required to maintain a neutral tone.   </blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for posting this. Rational Wiki had a fact I wasn't aware of regarding the editing of a Vice article.</div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></span></blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"Eventually, discussions between Stallman and the rest of the CSAIL mailing list would end up getting forwared to another student at MIT, who published the story on Medium.<a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#cite_note-removerms-40" style="line-height:1;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">[38]</a><span style="line-height:1"> The story started getting minor traction, until VICE ran an article on it</span><a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#cite_note-removermsvice-41" style="line-height:1;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">[39]</a><span style="line-height:1">. The article, whilst mostly accurate would remove the second sentence from the emphasized paragraph, which ended up making Stallman look like he was defending Epstein. This resulted in the story blowing up and most news outlets, rather than verifying the original emails (which VICE had attached to their article</span><a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#cite_note-removermsmails-42" style="line-height:1;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">[40]</a><span style="line-height:1">) simply ended up copying VICEs shortening of the headline."</span><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br>
   Are they trying to disassociate themselves from a criminal, or do they just want to not be represented by an asshole?  Stallman has certainly demonstrated the importance of public figures STFU when the topic is something they don't understand. </blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Somtimes you have to dig for your knowledge. It may be valid, even though you don't like the envelope it arrives in.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Generally people make mistakes and errors in judgement all the time. Its how we correct those errors and mistakes that describes the content of our character.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Of course that an impossible thing when someone edits your words after the fact and then the mob runs with that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
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Howard Gibson <br>
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</blockquote></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Russell<br><br>“Th’ newspaper does ivrything f’r us. It runs th’ polis foorce an’ th’ banks, commands th’ milishy, controls th’ ligislachure, baptizes th’ young, marries th’ foolish, comforts th’ afflicted, afflicts th’ comfortable, buries th’ dead an’ roasts thim aftherward.” F. P. Dunne</div></div>