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<div>Actually I had done a traceroute on dnschecker.org from my daughter's windows machine (on my BIL's network) after I last posted. It is attached. I think it was to either duckduckgo.com, google, or maybe another search site. I also did some ipconfig commands and recorded in some text files (then realized a better word processing program would save better). I also went to IP Tracker and ipleak.net. On IPleak.net it registered like 27 DNS addresses. When using my cell data on my own machine, I get 1 DNS address on that site. Is that at all unusual? Please let me know if those records are also useful to send.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Lastly, to clarify about utopia.net, it hasn't been popping up in the past month or so. But on my kids machine, I would input a URL into the browser, and see in the lower LH corner 'resolving host..' and either just after or at the same time '....utopia.net' <br></div><div><br></div><div>Over the past month I also worked on my own machine. When I changed OS I found on a fresh install, my DNS was routing to utopia.net (even after not using my BIL's network). It seemed to be associated with the gigabit card. I got curious after remembering the browser texts I mentioned above, on my kids' machine. I got curious and researched utopia.net. That let to me finally doing some fiddling and was able to change drivers and erase difficult-to-access HDD partitions, and through the command line, and linux OS I got it off my machine. I did the chattr +i command for my /etc/resolv.conf and other efforts to make sure it didn't revert. It has certainly gotten me more familiar with Linux than I was.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, curious to hear your thoughts.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br></div><div>Joseph</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nov 22, 2020, 5:02 PM by talk@gtalug.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p>Depending on what kind of problems you're seeing, you probably
want to do a traceroute<span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"> </span>from a network
where you have good performance/reliability to someplace distant
(I use slashdot.org (:-)), land then again from the doubtful
network.<br></p><p>The names you see are sometimes clear...<br></p><pre>[davecb@miles Networking]$ traceroute slashdot.org
traceroute to slashdot.org (216.105.38.15), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets<br></pre><pre> 1 _gateway (192.168.7.1) 0.409 ms 0.402 ms 0.246 ms<br></pre><pre> 2 10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1) 2.168 ms 2.784 ms 2.962 ms<br></pre><pre> 3 99.240.238.1 (99.240.238.1) 19.416 ms 14.751 ms 14.897 ms<br></pre><pre> 4 8081-dgw01.ym.rmgt.net.rogers.com (67.231.222.137) 19.446 ms 14.282 ms 14.152 ms<br></pre><pre> 5 69.63.249.221 (69.63.249.221) 19.653 ms 19.892 ms 19.737 ms<br></pre><pre> 6 209.148.235.218 (209.148.235.218) 14.454 ms 18.395 ms 18.287 ms<br></pre><pre> 7 ae58.bar3.Toronto1.Level3.net (4.59.180.41) 34.759 ms 34.188 ms 34.265 ms<br></pre><pre> 8 ae-2-3611.edge2.NewYork6.Level3.net (4.69.209.82) 40.920 ms 41.218 ms 41.547 ms<br></pre><pre> 9 * * *<br></pre><pre>10 los-edge-08.inet.qwest.net (67.14.22.202) 103.209 ms 96.349 ms 102.989 ms<br></pre><pre>11 65-126-18-126.dia.static.qwest.net (65.126.18.126) 94.487 ms 94.216 ms 83.169 ms<br></pre><pre>12 br05-te0-0-1-6.lwdc.americanis.net (207.158.62.109) 82.873 ms 82.800 ms 83.479 ms<br></pre><pre>13 ar07-te13-3.lwdc.americanis.net (209.216.192.66) 83.737 ms * *<br></pre><pre>14 216.105.38.15 (216.105.38.15) 89.270 ms 83.401 ms 83.303 ms<br></pre><p><br></p><p>For example, 8081-dgw01.ym.rmgt.net.rogers.com is Rogers, etc.
For missing or more obscure names, use command-line whois with the
IP address:<br></p><pre>[davecb@miles Networking]$ whois 69.63.249.221 <br></pre><pre>[Querying whois.arin.net]<br></pre><pre>[whois.arin.net]<br></pre><pre>#<br></pre><pre># ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use<br></pre><pre># available at: <a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/</a><br></pre><pre>#<br></pre><pre># If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at<br></pre><pre># <a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/</a><br></pre><pre>#<br></pre><pre># Copyright 1997-2020, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.<br></pre><pre>#<br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>NetRange: 69.63.240.0 - 69.63.255.255<br></pre><pre>CIDR: 69.63.240.0/20<br></pre><pre>NetName: ROGERS-COM-INFR<br></pre><pre>NetHandle: NET-69-63-240-0-1<br></pre><pre>Parent: NET69 (NET-69-0-0-0-0)<br></pre><pre>NetType: Direct Allocation<br></pre><pre>OriginAS: AS812<br></pre><pre>Organization: Rogers Communications Canada Inc. (RCC-184)<br></pre><pre>RegDate: 2008-05-01<br></pre><pre>Updated: 2017-01-06<br></pre><pre>Ref: <a href="https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/69.63.240.0" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/69.63.240.0</a><br></pre><p>You will get two things:<br></p><ol><li>Who it passes through, eg, Utopia, Bell or Rodgers<br></li><li>How <i>long it takes </i>to get to each new network <br></li></ol><p>I have a script that subtracts the lines of three sample times
from one another, but eyeballs work well, too (;-))<br></p><p>I'd be curious to see which Utopia you get: Mumbai or Utah (;-))<br></p><p>--dave<br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><div class="">On 2020-11-22 2:45 p.m., Joseph Rocklin
via talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Sorry. My wife and I are trying to discern if my BIL's
network was a problem in the past. It has been the family's
network. The kids and her computer in the past had routed via
utopia.net when we entered in addresses or search terms. I am
trying to see if there is anything wrong with my BIL's network
now. I am a bit suspicious based on what I read about
utopia.net. My wife wants me to find more significant findings
before she allows herself to question matters. I don't know all
that much except that utopia.net was noted as a malware site on
many searches I've done.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nov 22, 2020, 2:29 PM by <a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@gtalug.org</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div>On 2020-11-22 2:13 p.m., Joseph Rocklin via talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>Hi all,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I just tried a reverse dns lookup on whoismydns.com for
my wife's computer on a family-member's network.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Result:<br></div><div>DNS Server: 67.231.208.167<br></div><div>Reverse DNS: pub-cdns3-wlfdle-eth1.rpub.net.rogers.com<br></div><div>IP Owner: Rogers<br></div><div><br></div><div>Does this seem correct? I have my dns settings set on my
machine and I get my expected DNS results on my machine on
this family member's network. Is there any reason to be
concerned here?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I had noticed a while back, before upgrades on this
family member's network, that utopia.net was being used as
the DNS server. It was on more than one machine that used
that network. Now I'm wondering if somehow this network was
routing, in a still-problematic way, but just via a local
address?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I may have confused some concepts as I am just getting my
feet wet with this topic of DNS servers.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If anyone has suggestions to confirm if the network is
properly setup, please let me know.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Why are you looking up the DNS, when you want to look up
your wife's computer? Look up her WAN address.<br></div><div>Her host name should be something like cpe<router
MAC>-cm<modem MAC>.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. Host
name changed to protect the guilty. ;-)<br></div><div><br></div><div>She should also have IPv6 addresses.<br></div><div><br></div><div>---<br></div><div>Post to this mailing list <a href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@gtalug.org</a><br></div><div>Unsubscribe from this mailing list <a href="https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><pre wrap="" class="">---
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