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<p>Hmmn<font size="-1">, </font>Reuters and Associated Press are middlemen, while NPR, ABC, CBS and the Conversation are "leaf" sites, as are the highly opinionated sites like NYT, WaPo, G&M, NatPo and Toronto Sta.</p></div></blockquote><div>Reuters and AP (Associated Press), UP (United Press) International, and CP (Canadian Press), the Canadian AP arm, used to be called wire photo services, They would aggregate selected stories from local papers around the world. It was service by subscription. They would license the stories for use by local news publishers and push them to the locally subscribed outlets via teletype.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Not sure what a leaf site is but I'd have to filter out the word maple to even begin to start looking that up on the internet.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>I wonder if there is a relationship to the "paywallness"?</p></div></blockquote><div>Well the Washington Post gives every reader access to 20 articles every month. Others give a smaller amount of access before the paywall kicks in. But following the principle of zero convergence which says that as the cost of delivering media converges with zero, so does the value of the content; currently the WP only wants 39 CAD for a years subscription, I think that is quite reasonable. I'd pay it but I never seem to go over the monthly limit.</div><div><br></div><div>For the most part I think Evan hit the nail on the head ...</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">What is paywalled is elitist analysis, editorials, op-eds and assorted claptrap.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div>I find that if it's just the details I am looking for, if I hit a paywall I just move on till I find them. Funnily enough, NP seems to have reigned in Conrad Black. His writing voice changed so radically a year or so ago that I'm pretty sure he's being edited to pair down his ego which shines so brightly, even after a prison term. In that case 39c is too much for the subscription. </div><div><br></div><div>At least Rex Murphey is funny. But both of them seem to regurgitate multi syllable dictionary words in order to inflate the perceived value of the content. Journalistic flair aside, there is the propaganda value of confusing language, which business and governments so often rely on.</div><div><br></div><div>Fun fact ... using Lynx as a text reader, stops the annoying pop ups. So no advertisement video pops up or audio starts while I'm trying to quietly read the local news with my morning coffee, like now. Although Evans link to "The Conversation" returns a bad html notice, other text readers on Android, parse out all the xml cruft and give me plain text content.</div><div><br></div><div>--dave</div><div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<div>On 2020-08-07 12:48 a.m., Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span>As someone much smarter than me recently wrote, "The Truth is Paywalled but the Lies are Free".
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I call absolute bullshit on this assertion, which I have seen in meme form at a number of locations.</div>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Russell<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>