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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 11:17,
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              <div>On 2/2/20 6:11 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:<br>
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                    <div>Reviving this thread from the dead.</div>
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                    <div>Is it possible you have a smart doorbell.
                      Apparently they are sending data.</div>
                    <div><a
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                    <div>Dave <br>
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              <p>Ya. I saw that one also.</p>
              <p>I have a dumb doorbell.</p>
              <p>The only way it could be dumber is if was a rope
                attached to a bell.<br>
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          <div>I'll bet ring isn't the only smart thing leaking info.</div>
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          <div>Dave</div>
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    <p>I recently saw this article.</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/19/opinion/location-tracking-cell-phone.html">https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/19/opinion/location-tracking-cell-phone.html</a></p>
    <p>Most of the things I knew of as isolated issues but seeing them
      put together goes a long way to painting a scary picture.</p>
    <p>The idea of giving away an SDK that feeds information back to the
      SDK developers for monetizing leaves me both horrified and in
      admiration of the audacity.<br>
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