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Here is a bit of a thought experiment.<br>
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Lets say I am interviewing to hire someone.<br>
I ask the person for sexual favors to get the job.<br>
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<div dir="auto">If you are a corporate employee that is grounds
for sanction. You expose them to a lawsuit for sexual
harassment. If you are a sole or small business proprietor,
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Sanction depends on those who control the corporation.<br>
Look at the recent number of revelations about payouts to cover over
xEO's behaving badly.<br>
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<div> If they say yes then they have accepted my offer
and we have a contract.<br>
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<div dir="auto">This kind of agreement is not supported under
contract law and the courts are enjoined to respect that fact
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It was a bit of an extreme example but how many contracts can be
enforced to the detriment of the less powerful party in the
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<div> So its a lawful transaction and the person providing
the favors has little right to suffer buyers remorse
following your logic.<br>
As distasteful as the above example may be, it may still
be legal.<br>
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<div dir="auto">A corporation has a fiscal responsibility to
shareholders, they have fiduciary obligations to all the
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The fiduciary obligation is there to the extent of the contract and
little more.<br>
The corporate executives are contracted to the corporation and have
a fiduciary responsibility to the corporations fiscal responsibility
to the shareholders.<br>
Unless otherwise part of an employment contract the executives have
no responsibility of care to anybody the corporation deals with.<br>
This is the kind of thing that results in products or processes that
kill customers and employees.<br>
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Its a nice deal.<br>
The corporation may have responsibilities to the customers and
others but as an executive I have responsibility only to the
corporation.<br>
If I make a decision that causes harm I am virtually immune to any
responsibility.<br>
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So if you believe that the first person you speak to on
the phone at Bell,Rogers et al does not have ALL your
personal details on the screen in front of them you are
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<div dir="auto">I would hope, for billing and service inquiries,
they would have all the personal information I provided to
them. I wouldn't give my SIN to a phone provider tho. I don't
ever remember giving it out to get a landline or cable service
and the agents I use now never have asked me for a SIN in
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Really??<br>
Telus runs a business providing practice management services to
medical professionals including managing health data.<br>
Would you like your phone provider to have access to all your
personal data?<br>
That could include your medical records?<br>
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I can just hear the conversation: <br>
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"Yes sir. To verify your identity could you tell us the results from
your last prostate exam?"<br>
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You may not have have provided your SIN as part of a credit
application 30 years ago and in that case you are a much wiser
person than I.<br>
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The carrier should have an obligation of
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carrier has is to maximize the
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<div dir="auto">Cybercare of personal information
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That is true and this was something like 30 years ago I
was much more naive then.<br>
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The environment has changed in the intervening time.<br>
When I was a child access to personal information was
controlled by physical access to paper and security was
a matter of locks and keys.<br>
The rules around information protection are woefully
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For example I later this morning will need to start
looking at what of my information LifeLabs has leaked.</div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">As you say
times have changed. I only recently found out, in the recent
past, that they don't even issue replacement SIN cards
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That's an interesting tidbit.<br>
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