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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Russell -- thanks for the tip about small footprint
system rescue -- I'll try it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rreiter91@gmail.com href="mailto:rreiter91@gmail.com">Russell</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apetrie@aspetrie.net
href="mailto:apetrie@aspetrie.net">Steve Petrie, P.Eng.</A> ; <A
title=talk@gtalug.org href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">GTALUG Talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 02, 2018 11:01
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux --
Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>On March 2, 2018 10:25:16 AM EST, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng.
via talk" <<A href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">talk@gtalug.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>Many thanks to the many helpful responders !!<BR>><BR>>Too
many for me to thank individually ...<BR>><BR>>* * *<BR>>* *
*<BR>><BR>>Here is what I have digested and decided, based on GTALUG
advivce<BR>>received:<BR>><BR>>1. Thanks for the multiple offers to
burn & ship DVDs and / or other<BR>>media.<BR>><BR>>2. I'll
accept the USB device advice, and use a USB device for the<BR>>installation
media.<BR>><BR>>3. I already own two (2) WD 1 TB USB drives, acquired
for taking hard<BR>>disk backups of the new PC. So I'll try using one of
those for the<BR>>debian Linux (LXDE) installation
device.<BR>><BR>>4. My friend has a Windows 10 setup with high speed
Internet connection<BR>>so I'll see if he and I can get all three
installation DVD images onto<BR>>that USB drive. We can't use any Linux
utilities while doing that,<BR>>unfortunately. Then I'll try the Linux
install from that USB drive.<BR><BR>I know your final target is lxde but the
System Rescue iso has a very small footprint and it is great for slow
connections. I have done it for several people in the past and it contains
number of very useful tools for disk manipulation. It uses Debian apt tools
for repository management and is based on well documented Gentoo
linux.<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.system-rescue-cd.org">http://www.system-rescue-cd.org</A><BR><BR>><BR>>5.
Thanks also for the cautionary advice re: dial-up modem on Linux. I<BR>>did
some research earlier, but of course the proof will be in the<BR>>actual
attempt to use the modem :) I do plan to upgrade to a faster<BR>>(and
dedicated) Internet link !! Just wanted to try first with the<BR>>dial-up
modem. Trying to simplify my life by postponing the networking<BR>>upgrade.
And also out of plain perverse curiosity, more than
anything<BR>>else.<BR>><BR>>* * *<BR>>* * *<BR>><BR>>Thanks
again to GTALUG members for all the advice. Makes this whole<BR>>shift from
Windows XP to debian Linux soooo much more comfortable. No<BR>>doubt I'll
be back in touch again at some point, during the build<BR>>adventure...
:)<BR><BR>I use system rescue to prepare dual boot systems and troubleshoot
with it all the time. My copy is on a very old 1gig usb pen drive. I wouldn't
start a fresh install without having a copy available.<BR><BR>Good luck with
the build.<BR>><BR>>Best,<BR>><BR>>Steve<BR>><BR>>-----
Original Message ----- <BR>> From: Giles Orr <BR>> To: Steve
Petrie, P.Eng. ; GTALUG Talk <BR>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018
2:24 PM<BR>>Subject: Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full
Set -<BR>>Shipped To Canadian Destination ??<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 1
March 2018 at 09:28, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk<BR>><<A
href="mailto:talk@gtalug.org">talk@gtalug.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> Greetings To GTALUG,<BR>><BR>>I
am starting to order the parts for building a new desktop PC to
run<BR>>debian Linux as primary operating system. Replacing an ancient
Dell<BR>>desktop PC with MS Windows XP.<BR>><BR>> *
* *<BR>> * * *<BR>><BR>>I'm looking for a source
for full set of physical debian Linux (LXDE)<BR>>installation DVDs (NOT a
live install, as I understand that Linux does<BR>>not yet support live
install with UEFI).<BR>><BR>>I need the installation DVDs because I use
a very slow telephone-grade<BR>>dial-up line modem for my Internet
connection, so a Linux installation<BR>>via network is not feasible. (I
plan to try to keep using the dial-up<BR>>line with the new debian Linux
PC, at least for the first while. GTALUG<BR>>advice put me on to the idea
of using a USB dial-up modem with Linux.)<BR>><BR>>Found a U.S.A.-side
vendor <A href="http://www.shoplinuxonline.org">www.shoplinuxonline.org</A>
but am concerned<BR>>about getting caught in snags with payment /
collection of Canadian<BR>>customs duties, that may be collected by courier
delivering to the<BR>>Canadian address from
U.S.A<BR>><BR>> * * *<BR>> * *
*<BR>><BR>>Does anyone know of a Canadian-side online seller of debian
Linux<BR>>(LXDE) DVD installation sets ??<BR>><BR>>I could
potentially beg use of a friend's Windows 10 setup on Bell<BR>>Fibe, and
download the debian Linux LXDE) DVD image files and burn the<BR>>DVDs
myself, but I prefer to avoid the hassle and probable
mistakes.<BR>><BR>>Any thoughts from GTALUG members, on this piddling
but potentially<BR>>messy detail of getting a full set of debian Linux
(LXDE) install DVDs,<BR>>greatly appreciated
!!<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>The last time I had to help someone
with a modem on Linux 3-4 years<BR>>ago, it was kind of a nightmare.
Before you buy, make sure it has<BR>>Linux support - and then spend some
time researching what they mean by<BR>>that, because one of the things I
encountered was "has Linux support"<BR>>meant "if you go pay someone else
for a driver that only works with a<BR>>specific kernel." I don't
consider that real Linux support, so do
your<BR>>homework.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Keep in mind that every time a
new kernel comes out (~once a month with<BR>>Debian stable, ~every two
weeks with testing??) you're in for an<BR>>overnight (or at least
multi-hour) download. I'm afraid you're going<BR>>to find yourself
dreading the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' command, which you<BR>>_should_ run
often.<BR>><BR>><BR>>I'd also add a vote for seeing if you can get
USB media: it's a lot<BR>>easier to deal with these days, and more
common. It could also allow<BR>>you to skip putting an optical drive
into your new machine if you don't<BR>>otherwise need
it.<BR>><BR>><BR>> -- <BR>><BR>>
Giles<BR>> <A
href="https://www.gilesorr.com/">https://www.gilesorr.com/</A><BR>>
<A href="mailto:gilesorr@gmail.com">gilesorr@gmail.com</A><BR><BR>--
<BR>Russell</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>