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On 06/27/2016 08:35 PM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">On Jun 27, 2016 7:59 PM, "Michael Galea via talk"
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> On 06/26/16 10:39, Russell Reiter wrote:<br>
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> Now, I have to say, if you have ANY experience with
electric utilities I would imagine you are positively laughing
by now. When one utility CEO was recently asked how they slept
at night they replied "Just like a baby, I sleep for two hours
and then I cry until morning".<br>
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This is the dichotomy of private ownership of public utilities.
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<p dir="ltr">I rather liked your earlier comment along the line
of; in order to break even in an environment which squeezes out
the small but innovative operations, you would need to
reuse/sell any excess heat generated. </p>
<p dir="ltr">On a side note, I believe there was a steam plant
downtown which serviced several commercial buildings for heating
at one time. I think I also read about a deep water shared
cooling project here in the city but I haven't heard anything
lately.</p>
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Your thinking of Enwave.<br>
There are a fair number of buildings using Enwave heating and
cooling.<br>
I had an office in an Enwave building at Adelaide and Victoria.<br>
They ripped out the steam boilers and were using only the steam from
Enwave freeing up a bunch of space in the basement for things like
backup generators.<br>
Enwave also provides the deep lake cold water to areas West of
Yonge(as of a few years ago) I would be willing to bet that 151
Front uses Enwave.<br>
Enwave also runs a generating facility where the waste heat is used
as part of the steam sold to the other buildings.<br>
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<p dir="ltr">I guess my point is that; blending technologies
happens over time and usually over the objections of the for
profit status quo.<br>
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