From me at mylesbraithwaite.com Sat Aug 2 16:57:36 2014 From: me at mylesbraithwaite.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 12:57:36 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] This should be archived Message-ID: <53DD1880.3090203@mylesbraithwaite.com> -- Myles Braithwaite | http://mylesb.ca/e From kalibslack at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 16:59:20 2014 From: kalibslack at gmail.com (Marcelo Cavalcante) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 13:59:20 -0300 Subject: [GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] Hopefully this email will go to talk@gtalug.org In-Reply-To: <20140802144616.GA14859@capetown.lowshang.com> References: <1406986370386.551e1756@Nodemailer> <20140802144616.GA14859@capetown.lowshang.com> Message-ID: Kind of strange. Em s?bado, 2 de agosto de 2014, Tom Low-Shang escreveu: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 06:32:50AM -0700, me at mylesbraithwaite.com > wrote: > > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd"> > > > > > > Looks like spam. > > > -- > Tom Low-Shang > Cell 416 857 7013 > GTalk/Jabber tomlowshang at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at gtalug.org > http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > -- =================================================== Marcelo Cavalcante Rocha - Kalib P?s-Graduando em Governan?a de Tecnologia da Informa??o - EST?CIO/FIC Graduado em Sistemas de Informa??es - EST?CIO/FIC Usu?rio Linux #407564 | Usu?rio Asterisk #1148 Fortaleza - Cear? - Brazil Celular: +55 085 87620983 Certifica??es: ITIL V3 | CSM | LPI-C1 | LPI-C2 | LPI-C3 | Novell CLA Minha Pessoa: Blog Projetos: Tux-CE | Archlinux-br | Chakra | KDE Brasil | TLUG | PUG-CE =================================================== Proteja meu endere?o como estou protegendo o seu. N?o revele e-mail dos correspondentes: use Cco (Copia Carbonada Oculta). Retire os endere?os antes de reenviar. Dificulte assim a dissemina??o de v?rus e spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tom at lowshang.com Sat Aug 2 17:57:27 2014 From: tom at lowshang.com (Tom Low-Shang) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 13:57:27 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] This should be archived In-Reply-To: <53DD1880.3090203@mylesbraithwaite.com> References: <53DD1880.3090203@mylesbraithwaite.com> Message-ID: <20140802175727.GA7952@capetown.lowshang.com> On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 12:57:36PM -0400, Myles Braithwaite wrote: > ...nothing, and it was archived. -- Tom Low-Shang Cell 416 857 7013 GTalk/Jabber tomlowshang at gmail.com From mbraithwaite at braithwaitecorp.com Fri Aug 8 16:41:10 2014 From: mbraithwaite at braithwaitecorp.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:41:10 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing out SpamAssassin Message-ID: <66cccf2d4402bbbaeb86b60023d18ad5@braithwaitecorp.com> This is just a simple test of SpamAssassin. From cbbrowne at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 16:52:52 2014 From: cbbrowne at gmail.com (Christopher Browne) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:52:52 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing out SpamAssassin In-Reply-To: <66cccf2d4402bbbaeb86b60023d18ad5@braithwaitecorp.com> References: <66cccf2d4402bbbaeb86b60023d18ad5@braithwaitecorp.com> Message-ID: Here's a test that hopefully looks more like spam... Spam, spam, spam. Please buy my Cialis, Levitra, Viagra. Hello, I hope I find you trustworthy; I need your help, as my relative in {NIgeria, Sierra Leone} recently died, leaving an astounding quantity of money in a bank account, and I need you to help pay those dastardly bankers' fees, and will promise you astonishing quantities of money in return for your trustworthy help. Hello, there is a problem with your GMail account. Please log into http://let-me-steal-your-google-account-today.test so we can diagnose the problem. Hello, there is a problem with your account at the Bank of Scotland. Please log into http://let-me-steal-your-money-today.test so we can diagnose the problem. Hopefully this sets off a bunch of SpamAssassin's alarms! :-) From mbraithwaite at braithwaitecorp.com Fri Aug 8 16:55:39 2014 From: mbraithwaite at braithwaitecorp.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:55:39 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] This is to test out the new footer. Message-ID: <34c4842b062ff816bd58c17fa48e3dd0@braithwaitecorp.com> From jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca Fri Aug 8 16:59:18 2014 From: jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca (Jamon Camisso) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:59:18 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing out SpamAssassin In-Reply-To: References: <66cccf2d4402bbbaeb86b60023d18ad5@braithwaitecorp.com> Message-ID: <53E501E6.5080902@utoronto.ca> On 2014-08-08 12:52 PM, Christopher Browne wrote: > Here's a test that hopefully looks more like spam... > > Spam, spam, spam. > > Please buy my Cialis, Levitra, Viagra. > > Hello, I hope I find you trustworthy; I need your help, as my relative > in {NIgeria, Sierra Leone} recently died, leaving an astounding > quantity of money in a bank account, and I need you to help pay those > dastardly bankers' fees, and will promise you astonishing quantities > of money in return for your trustworthy help. > > Hello, there is a problem with your GMail account. Please log into > http://let-me-steal-your-google-account-today.test so we can diagnose > the problem. > > Hello, there is a problem with your account at the Bank of Scotland. > Please log into http://let-me-steal-your-money-today.test so we can > diagnose the problem. > > Hopefully this sets off a bunch of SpamAssassin's alarms! :-) GTUBE is the only 100% accurate test. This should get binned: XJS*C4JDBQADN1.NSBN3*2IDNEN*GTUBE-STANDARD-ANTI-UBE-TEST-EMAIL*C.34 X Replace the space between C.34 X with no space. From avolkov at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 17:16:07 2014 From: avolkov at gmail.com (Alex Volkov) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:16:07 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing out SpamAssassin In-Reply-To: <66cccf2d4402bbbaeb86b60023d18ad5@braithwaitecorp.com> References: <66cccf2d4402bbbaeb86b60023d18ad5@braithwaitecorp.com> Message-ID: By the way, you can train SpamAssasing, by downloading 'Spam' folder from Gmail via IMAP, and then feeding it to training command. Is it sa-train? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Myles Braithwaite < mbraithwaite at braithwaitecorp.com> wrote: > This is just a simple test of SpamAssassin. > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at gtalug.org > http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fnaa454 at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 22:27:18 2014 From: fnaa454 at gmail.com (der guy) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:27:18 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Subscription Test Message-ID: Hi. Bye soon. -- Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbbrowne at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 22:43:06 2014 From: cbbrowne at gmail.com (Christopher Browne) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:43:06 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Sample HTML message Message-ID: > > Hopefully I *can't* *find* a BLINK tag... > Let's see what happpens... Not sure this is *full fledged HTML*... But it's definitely got nasty formatting. WIth... 1. Dumb 2. 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URL: From me at mylesbraithwaite.com Fri Aug 8 23:40:13 2014 From: me at mylesbraithwaite.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 19:40:13 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Example of a Signed Message Message-ID: <53E55FDD.7070106@mylesbraithwaite.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is an example message that happens to be singed by me. - -- Myles Braithwaite | http://mylesb.ca/e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT5V/dAAoJEGpM6DdaL+e/E2EIAJHGpxTwqMq2tZu2tHeHf3L+ K/RhQnGXMYh0YKrGVLHLptyK04np1DK5TV+y2Knpjuh0rJ7L/GDy1USzoxLrXxC3 E9vBFV8CtFZAK8YAOOakalhJyD3LxSqCYf4c0gKyrFAvtghH7NEqxoSVQO/F40ls rn8jFOPR092SpXhhzXAM3fVgcEpV/HGw5sRNC/zqRTcyNocriM2QbpafaQAXa6KT nZwngeCRhqay9EGarLtz0Pu5dRHakCUWmPH4re5Br3a753zCMVgZpaTyf1rJiK6E Y/vZ+bA5r15gCNLnAz44WsOLj7q0+co62LI+SFXwnM6pAjKsCpMp/ou187KlXn8= =Sj1/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From me at mylesbraithwaite.com Fri Aug 8 23:41:25 2014 From: me at mylesbraithwaite.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 19:41:25 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] A Signed Message. Message-ID: <53E56025.5010004@mylesbraithwaite.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey, how are you doing. This is a signed email message. - -- Myles Braithwaite | http://mylesb.ca/e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT5WAkAAoJEGpM6DdaL+e/4p8IAKw5Hg2lZIY0YBNIhWKR2ODw xx0Cn3cymoOZb50/QpYJMMJRCDKrcMm15ijUUVvpI18Lg/kZwm+moIjzBzz/4aCh UrJfPuWnDHfnol/M8u+jmRl12lO0gInLEXHF7fj+f/O9vUIycYnhudEVsSuzxRrQ jzF2NsO35yD6wjnBwXNoGX6F3eTuiKUsPI1zDGXAHGoX9ybKYDq/73w9SR69EmAQ mt+ZZZQxWCIFPuxvu6U+2BN5dLqjTCLs+B7fL9pkA9EZnhs2V3iSmnGGJY4gJHDf y5Un9qLTuuqOLbet7ss8XJZBAf2N0UNEoIhDEjX7kRVh8D6x3zOrGsayE5UUWiY= =5No6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From me at mylesbraithwaite.com Fri Aug 8 23:43:11 2014 From: me at mylesbraithwaite.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 19:43:11 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Here is a signed an encrypted message. 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Em sexta-feira, 8 de agosto de 2014, Christopher Browne escreveu: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Christopher Browne > wrote: > >> Which has little to say... >> >> Hopefully this goes to moderation... >> > > It did, and I was able to approve it. > > I don't imagine that people want to do a lot of approvals; that's the > irritating thing about mailing list moderation... > -- > When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the > question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" > -- =================================================== Marcelo Cavalcante Rocha - Kalib P?s-Graduando em Governan?a de Tecnologia da Informa??o - EST?CIO/FIC Graduado em Sistemas de Informa??es - EST?CIO/FIC Usu?rio Linux #407564 | Usu?rio Asterisk #1148 Fortaleza - Cear? - Brazil Celular: +55 085 87620983 Certifica??es: ITIL V3 | CSM | LPI-C1 | LPI-C2 | LPI-C3 | Novell CLA Minha Pessoa: Blog Projetos: Tux-CE | Archlinux-br | Chakra | KDE Brasil | TLUG | PUG-CE =================================================== Proteja meu endere?o como estou protegendo o seu. N?o revele e-mail dos correspondentes: use Cco (Copia Carbonada Oculta). Retire os endere?os antes de reenviar. Dificulte assim a dissemina??o de v?rus e spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at kallies.ca Sat Aug 9 21:35:00 2014 From: mike at kallies.ca (mike) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:35:00 +0000 Subject: [GTALUG] Posting from a ridiculous mail client Message-ID: <10EA0437AA58A6428D3A28D5D75F77750FB29827@EXMBX2010-A.Hosting.ca> This is a test message. 1...3....4... From mike at home.kallies.ca Sat Aug 9 21:37:07 2014 From: mike at home.kallies.ca (Mike on Blacktower) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:37:07 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Test2 Message-ID: <41ac01cfb41a$11d20680$35761380$@home.kallies.ca> >From a subscribed account, copying itself. From myles at monkeyinyoursoul.com Mon Aug 18 17:21:12 2014 From: myles at monkeyinyoursoul.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:21:12 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing from a "+" email address. Message-ID: I want to see if would work with mailman. Or would the person on the other end have to register with both email addresses. -- Myles Braithwaite | http://mylesb.ca/e/miys From gilesorr at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 17:33:19 2014 From: gilesorr at gmail.com (Giles Orr) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:33:19 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing from a "+" email address. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 18 August 2014 13:21, Myles Braithwaite wrote: > I want to see if would work with > mailman. Or would the person on the other end have to register with > both email addresses. > > -- > Myles Braithwaite | http://mylesb.ca/e/miys > > > --- > GTALUG Talk Mailing List - talk at gtalug.org > http://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > I registered with a "+" in my gmail address earlier today. It appears to be working fine as I clearly received your message ... -- Giles http://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilesorr at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 17:40:18 2014 From: gilesorr at gmail.com (Giles Orr) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:40:18 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Fwd: Your message to talk awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apparently a distinction should be made between receiving and sending: I got Myles' message fine, but when I sent my reply I received the following message because I responded without the "+etc" in my email name. I'm not aware of a way (although it may exist) to tell gmail "always change my sending email address for this mailing list." A better solution might be for the list to automatically parse addresses and say "if name+blah at example.com is subscribed, name at example.com can send to the list. But that is probably tricky too ... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: 18 August 2014 13:33 Subject: Your message to talk awaits moderator approval To: gilesorr at gmail.com Your mail to 'talk' with the subject Re: [GTALUG] Testing from a "+" email address. Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: [SNIP] -- Giles http://www.gilesorr.com/ gilesorr at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at mylesbraithwaite.com Mon Aug 18 17:47:01 2014 From: me at mylesbraithwaite.com (Myles Braithwaite) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:47:01 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing from a "+" email address. In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Giles Orr wrote: > I registered with a "+" in my gmail address earlier today. It appears to be > working fine as I clearly received your message ... The problem is with sending the email. If you setup with you have to send using that as while or get caught in the moderation and a moderator has to approve your second email for sending only (not receiving) and will not show up in the membership area of mailman. The issue I'm trying to figure out is in the scenario where an email address get hijacked and starts sending mail to the list. How can we modorate that email if it's not in the membership area of mailman. Working on it over here: . From jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca Mon Aug 18 18:05:12 2014 From: jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca (Jamon Camisso) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:05:12 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing from a "+" email address. In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <53F24058.1090204@utoronto.ca> On 2014-08-18 1:47 PM, Myles Braithwaite wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Giles Orr wrote: >> I registered with a "+" in my gmail address earlier today. It appears to be >> working fine as I clearly received your message ... > > The problem is with sending the email. If you setup with > you have to send using that as while or get > caught in the moderation and a moderator has to approve your second > email for sending only (not receiving) and will not show up in the > membership area of mailman. > > The issue I'm trying to figure out is in the scenario where an email > address get hijacked and starts sending mail to the list. How can we > modorate that email if it's not in the membership area of mailman. > > Working on it over here: . For a use case like this where there are a few thousand subscribers, is it worth supporting sub-address sending, where it has not been supported since the inception of the list (at least I think this is the case). Perhaps limit subscriber addresses using ban_list and then it is a non-issue. Admittedly, I like sub-addressing and use it everywhere. An option to make that work would be to use an umbrella list with accept_these_nonmembers. The process would be something like: user+subaddress at domain.com signs up to subaddress specific list, with their subaddress. user at domain.com signs up to top level list with normal address. Now, with accept_these_nonmembers including the subaddress list of subscribers, the top level list will accept a message from user+subaddress at domain.com. I'm not sure how to control duplicate messages, or what the gain is here since the user could just subscribe to the top level list with their subaddress, but perhaps there's some moderation bits that could be set to limit delivery? Just a thought, Jamon From gilesorr+tlugmailman at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 18:56:34 2014 From: gilesorr+tlugmailman at gmail.com (Giles Orr) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:56:34 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] Testing from a "+" email address. In-Reply-To: <53F24058.1090204@utoronto.ca> References:

<53F24058.1090204@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: This can be handled in gmail: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/Jifa7JPNH_I (Follow the first answer link). Essentially you have to set up the name+subaddress at gmail.com as another email address (even though, strictly speaking, it's not), and then every time you email the list you have to look for "From" (next to CC and BCC) and change to the appropriate subaddress. Kind of a PITA, but I guess it'll have to do as gmail only has incoming email filters, not outgoing ones (that I can see). On 18 August 2014 14:05, Jamon Camisso wrote: > On 2014-08-18 1:47 PM, Myles Braithwaite wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Giles Orr wrote: > >> I registered with a "+" in my gmail address earlier today. It appears > to be > >> working fine as I clearly received your message ... > > > > The problem is with sending the email. If you setup with > > you have to send using that as while or get > > caught in the moderation and a moderator has to approve your second > > email for sending only (not receiving) and will not show up in the > > membership area of mailman. > > > > The issue I'm trying to figure out is in the scenario where an email > > address get hijacked and starts sending mail to the list. How can we > > modorate that email if it's not in the membership area of mailman. > > > > Working on it over here: < > https://github.com/gtalug/infrastructure/issues/30>. > > For a use case like this where there are a few thousand subscribers, is > it worth supporting sub-address sending, where it has not been supported > since the inception of the list (at least I think this is the case). > > Perhaps limit subscriber addresses using ban_list and then it is a > non-issue. > > Admittedly, I like sub-addressing and use it everywhere. An option to > make that work would be to use an umbrella list with > accept_these_nonmembers. The process would be something like: > > user+subaddress at domain.com signs up to subaddress specific list, with > their subaddress. > > user at domain.com signs up to top level list with normal address. > > Now, with accept_these_nonmembers including the subaddress list of > subscribers, the top level list will accept a message from > user+subaddress at domain.com. > > I'm not sure how to control duplicate messages, or what the gain is here > since the user could just subscribe to the top level list with their > subaddress, but perhaps there's some moderation bits that could be set > to limit delivery? > > Just a thought, Jamon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbbrowne at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 15:42:48 2014 From: cbbrowne at gmail.com (Christopher Browne) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:42:48 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] An essay griping about PGP Message-ID: I rather liked the line about "Cryptography that post-dates the Fresh Prince." :-) http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/whats-matter-with-pgp.html It's also definitely onto something with the line: "The TL;DR is that 'trust' means different things to you than it does to me." -- When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scruss at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 14:07:43 2014 From: scruss at gmail.com (Stewart C. Russell) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:07:43 -0400 Subject: [GTALUG] An essay griping about PGP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53FDE62F.1080005@gmail.com> On 14-08-26 11:42 AM, Christopher Browne wrote: > I rather liked the line about "Cryptography that post-dates the Fresh > Prince." :-) > http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/whats-matter-with-pgp.html Though there are many rebuttals to that article, I agree with this one most: ?What's The Matter With PGP?? (via the rather thoughtful discussion on MetaFilter: ) And I'm really not sure why anyone at Keybase would think that this was the way to do crypto at all: /Keybase.io is also a Keybase client, however certain crypto actions (signing and decrypting) are limited to users who _store client-encrypted copies of their private keys on the server_, an optional feature we didn't mention above. On the website, all crypto is performed in JavaScript, in your browser. Some people have strong feelings about this, for good reason./ If someone else has your private key, it's not very private. So in summary: 1. PKI is hard, and even harder to get people to care about 2. UX for PGP front-ends is generally abysmal (Enigmail gets all 0_o if you have the audacity to use MIME, f'rinstance) ? perhaps something to do with lack of motivated developers due to [1] 3. E-mail leaks meta-data, which can be used to glean useful intelligence without knowing the message. cheers, Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: