<p dir="ltr">My experience with upstart makes me want to cry. No way to install, but not run a daemon where that choice is preserved across package updates? Really? (Granted, this may now be fixed...)</p>
<p dir="ltr">Like many things originating from the Ubuntu world, I consider upstart to be an OK idea that's never implemented fully/completely enough to realize it's potential.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks<br>
-Ben</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 14, 2014 5:01 PM, "Tim Tisdall" <<a href="mailto:tisdall-DXT9u3ndKiSh7up9GtFB90EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org">tisdall@creativestudent.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I was just starting to learn and like Upstart! It allowed me to run code as a daemon even if it hadn't been developed to properly fork as a daemon.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Christopher Browne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cbbrowne-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org" target="_blank">cbbrowne-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>People have doubtless heard of the "Debian Init controversy" <<a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd</a>><br>
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The following two emails represent the summarization of voting on the matter that took place the other day. <br><br>The technicalities of how they analyzed the votes to come to conclusion are reasonably interesting. <br>
<br>All members of the committee voted on all the options, which led to various "pairwise defeats" of a number of the options, bringing the feasible options down to ( U, D ) (e.g. - Upstart and SystemD). Chairman BDale held a further deciding vote, which went to SystemD.<br>
<div><br><a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00402.html" target="_blank">https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00402.html</a><br clear="all"><a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00405.html" target="_blank">https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00405.html</a><br>
<br>Debian docs on SystemD...<br><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/systemd" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/systemd</a><br><br></div><div>Relevant news today that is of interest; Mark Shuttleworth blogged <<a href="http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316" target="_blank">http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316</a>> that he will be asking for Ubuntu to adopt SystemD as well.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
-- <br>When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the<br>question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?"<br>
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