<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div class="icon flag " data-action="thread-item-flag" title=" Click to mark as important"> </div> <span class="from lozengfy" data-name="John Moniz" data-address="john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org" title="john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org" data-action="contact-card-menu">John Moniz</span> <div class="recipients"> <span class="to">To </span><span class="lozengfy" data-action="contact-card-menu" data-name="tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org" data-address="tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org" title="tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org">tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org wrote <br></span> </div> <span class="loader"></span> <div class="loz"> </div> <div class="thread-info"> <span class="thread-date"> <span class="short" title="Tue, De
c 10, 2013 at 4:10 PM"> Dec 10 at 4:10 <span class="ampm">PM</span></span> </span> </div>
----------------------<br>> Folks, I'm going out on a limb here,
but I'm not convinced that we are reading Zb correctly. Oddly
enough, as I read what > I think he might be saying, he just might
be trying to sympathise with Renata's situation, not dismiss it.
Unfortunately, his > retorts and explanations don't clear up
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> John.<br><br>I think so too.<br><br>EK<br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:10:37 PM, John Moniz <john.moniz-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5196632895"><div>
<div class="yiv5196632895moz-cite-prefix">Folks, I'm going out on a limb here,
but I'm not convinced that we are reading Zb correctly. Oddly
enough, as I read what I think he might be saying, he just might
be trying to sympathise with Renata's situation, not dismiss it.
Unfortunately, his retorts and explanations don't clear up
anything.<br clear="none">
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John.<br clear="none">
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On 12/10/2013 04:55 PM, Alex Volkov wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr"><span class="yiv5196632895">Hey Renata,
thanks for talking a stand.<br clear="none">
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We can talk about predatory or harassing behaviour all day
long on this mailing list, but can still be ignoring it in
the real life. Here </span><span class="yiv5196632895"><span class="yiv5196632895"><span class="yiv5196632895"><span class="yiv5196632895">Zbigniew</span></span> has shown how
it can come out of nowhere and how really comically vile
and unacceptable it is. <br clear="none">
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Situation like these just don't happen often and I may
have discounted or trivialized the consequences of such
behaviour, sometimes not noticing it altogether -- which
is wrong. I think this is a real problem with TLUG and we
should address it.<br clear="none">
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<div><span class="yiv5196632895"><span class="yiv5196632895">So he kind of drove home the </span></span><span class="yiv5196632895"><span class="yiv5196632895">point Renata was making, though I'm not sure if
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Alex.</span></span></div>
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<div class="yiv5196632895gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Molly
Tournquist <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mollytournquist-ifvz4xmYPRU@public.gmane.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:mollytournquist-ifvz4xmYPRU@public.gmane.org">mollytournquist-ifvz4xmYPRU@public.gmane.org</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="yiv5196632895gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">> From:
Renata Rocha<br clear="none">
> Sent: 12/09/13 02:47 PM<br clear="none">
<div class="yiv5196632895im">> Again, I appreciate your contributions
and I believe, together, we all<br clear="none">
> can help make this group more diverse.<br clear="none">
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> From: Zbigniew Koziol<br clear="none">
> Sent: 12/10/13 01:48 PM<br clear="none">
<div class="yiv5196632895im">> Hugh, please calm down.<br clear="none">
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> Sure, my English is not perfect. Though I lived in
Canada for around 14<br clear="none">
> years. I lived also in Russia for 5 years, and now if
you care I am in<br clear="none">
> Poland, as assistant professor in physics ;) You may
google for me if<br clear="none">
> you want. Some people of this group should remember
me. I am still<br clear="none">
> officialy Canadian citizen. So I care.<br clear="none">
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> I can not bare silly, sick nonsense. I will not.
Simple?<br clear="none">
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Wow, unbelievable, the level of irony here is completely
fucking epic!<br clear="none">
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How about just shutting the fuck up for a day or two, you
crazy, out of place, semiliterate tartar?<br clear="none">
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