<div>Linux needs to expand it's user base by allowing manufacturers of laptops to load Linux on them.</div>
<div>Then there would be more support for Linux drivers especially for peripherals like webcams, network and standalone printers.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Christopher Browne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cbbrowne-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org">cbbrowne@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="im">On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM, <<a href="mailto:sciguy-Ja3L+HSX0kI@public.gmane.org">sciguy-Ja3L+HSX0kI@public.gmane.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> But after a<br>> while, and on this point I agree with the writer, creators of OS'es<br>
> like Ubuntu became over-zealous and broke a lot of things. But his<br>> problem is that he is using this idea to whitewash all other Linux<br>> distros, which is a bit unfair.<br><br></div>Well, he's putting together a story, optimizing its presentation so as<br>
to ensure maximum publication-worthiness, in the "maximizing<br>controversy" sense, so it's pretty predictable that there will be a<br>maximum of luridity.<br><br>Historically, it hasn't just been Ubuntu that has gotten thus<br>
"over-zealous." Fedora has had its moments, and going back as far as<br>when Red Hat 7.3 was aggressive about drawing in things I can barely<br>remember anymore, but broke a lot of things on people.<br><br>There's eminently good reason to *want* a distribution to be<br>
aggressive about drawing stuff in. Ubuntu has been using this with<br>regards to supporting new devices ASAP, and that's rather important if<br>people are trying to install it on a recent laptop.<br><br>In contrast, Debian's relative conservatism can lead to people having<br>
to go searching for "bleeding edge" bits in order to support whatever<br>new stuff is on their motherboard that isn't in a stable kernel. I<br>ran into that very problem when I installed Debian on my present<br>
desktop machine at the office - I *needed* to pull a wildly newer<br>kernel than was in Stable to support the NIC that was Dell's flavour<br>of the week. I was able to work it out, but not everyone can, and<br>some might use such challenges to justify arguing that Debian's old<br>
and broken.<br><br>I'm suspicious that Ubuntu may have gotten so aggressive with stuff<br>like Unity that it may well hurt them.<br><br>There's a lot of stuff "up", between Unity, Wayland, new init<br>alternatives, and it's debatable whether:<br>
- Being an old stick-in-the-mud risks being left behind. And a LOT of<br>people left Slackware over such.<br>- Adopters of new things are lemmings leaping towards the edges of cliffs.<br><br>Precedent exists, in both directions.<br>
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